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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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Hi all!,

OK! upgrading front sway bar...took off old one, now want to install new one...it has POLY bushings...

the manufacturer did not send lithium grease...so got some questions...

is lithium grease necessary to avoid squeaks?
what do you grease bar to poly, and poly to bracket?

ALSO, a tech told me to wrap the bar in teflon tape to avoid future squeaks with the lithium grease...not sure how the teflon makes it better?

LASTLY, do you tighten the arm hardware under load? or tires hanging?

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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 03:04 PM
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Grease between the bar and bushings is a good idea, teflon tape will probably work its way out but you could try. Just bolt it together, the sway bar application is not that sophisticated.
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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THanks! grease between bushings and holding bracket?
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 06:06 PM
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There's a product called 'Super Lube', that does a good job of lubricating poly bushings. Although grease between the bushing and the mounting bracket isn't essential, it won't hurt, and I usually do it on my cars.
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A lot of people recommend Super Lube for poly sway bar bushings... best of all, Harbor Freight stocks it.
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Poly bushings allow the bar to rotate freely, so it is not important to torque everything at normal ride height.
The factory style rubber bushings, however, securely grip the bar and twist back and forth as the suspension travels. Then, it is important to torque the mounting bushings at normal ride height. The factory type suspension bushings work the same way.
You can R&R a front sway bar on a C3 without lifting the car, anyway.
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THanks! grease between bushings and holding bracket?
Yes. These units have never squeaked.

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Thanks all!

PAUL74...did you put a grease fitting into the bracket?

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PAUL74...did you put a grease fitting into the bracket?

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Some of the Energy Suspension sway bar bushings come that way, but I don't see any reason why it can't be done at home.
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Originally Posted by Factor
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PAUL74...did you put a grease fitting into the bracket?

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That is an Energy Suspension product. It came with the grease fitting and grease. Has not given me any problems in four years despite the poly nay-sayers.

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That is an Energy Suspension product. It came with the grease fitting and grease. Has not given me any problems in four years despite the poly nay-sayers.
Don't you just love them???



I've been using Energy Suspension parts sine the late 70s-early 80s, when they first became available, usually with good results.
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Thanks All!

so no one uses lithium grease on these things?

PAUL 74...what do you lube with since the grease fitting?

thanks,
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To be honest I have not used that grease fitting since I installed the bushings ~four years ago (perhaps 6,000 miles ago). I lubed them quite well at that time. If I had since I probably would have used moly. But I am not a well-informed person.
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Originally Posted by paul 74
... But I am not a well-informed person.
Understatement Of The Year award!
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LOL!

All good...bar is in and torqued...odd question...there seems to be some space in the rods that connect to the control arms...How much/far do you tighten? til cant go further?

ALSO, any advice on torquing the frame bracket bolts? til tight? or is there a spec?

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1980 Aim says control arm to LCA bolt nuts 20 to 27 nm. Frame bracket bolts 20 to 25 nm.
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Good info! thanks!
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So the 69 AIM says for frame bracket bolts to welded nuts...

108-144 pounds per INCH....

so converting that says 1728 foot pounds...

I am thinking tight as possible?
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So the 69 AIM says for frame bracket bolts to welded nuts...

108-144 pounds per INCH....

so converting that says 1728 foot pounds...

I am thinking tight as possible?
No......divide inch pounds by 12, to convert to foot pounds. In your case, 9-12 pound/feet
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Old Nov 2, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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LOL!!! I put the 12 on top! haha!

good thing i didnt pickup the wrench yet!!!

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