WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS
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WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS
I'm going to be racing another forum member in a month (on a track) and i wanted to get some secrets for more ponies.. here are my specs
327 +.030
10:1 CR
64 cc 1.94 heads
.445/.465 lift cam (220* duration i think)
edelbrock performer intake
holley 600 vac secondaries carb
dual point dist
TH 400 with shift kit
posi rear with 3.08s
what can get me a little higher in the hp department ?
327 +.030
10:1 CR
64 cc 1.94 heads
.445/.465 lift cam (220* duration i think)
edelbrock performer intake
holley 600 vac secondaries carb
dual point dist
TH 400 with shift kit
posi rear with 3.08s
what can get me a little higher in the hp department ?
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (mdsmith)
Spray it! You know you want to! :D :yesnod:
I'll let you install my kit if you'll paint hot licks on my truck!!! :smash:
Oh yeah... who are you racing?
I'll let you install my kit if you'll paint hot licks on my truck!!! :smash:
Oh yeah... who are you racing?
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (Mike69)
you dont need hp. you need to take off the sway bar, let the tire pressure out, run on an 1/8th tank, get 90/10 adjustable shocks, empty out your glove box and practice your Reaction time :)
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (Corzvette69)
I'm going to be racing another forum member in a month (on a track) and i wanted to get some secrets for more ponies.. here are my specs
327 +.030
10:1 CR
64 cc 1.94 heads
.445/.465 lift cam (220* duration i think)
edelbrock performer intake
holley 600 vac secondaries carb
dual point dist
TH 400 with shift kit
posi rear with 3.08s
what can get me a little higher in the hp department ?
327 +.030
10:1 CR
64 cc 1.94 heads
.445/.465 lift cam (220* duration i think)
edelbrock performer intake
holley 600 vac secondaries carb
dual point dist
TH 400 with shift kit
posi rear with 3.08s
what can get me a little higher in the hp department ?
Just kidding - couldn't resist!!
On a serious note: As mentioned before - NOS is for sure the biggest bang for the buck - however - it involves some risks too!!
Sometimes it's wise to invest some money and get the car dyno tuned. A well tuned car can produce a lot more HP than a not all that well tuned one... Another - not too expensive way to get cheap horsepower is to remove the mechanical fan and install a electric fan. You can get decent electric fans for $100 - $150.... Depending on the type of mech. fan you are using - you can get up to 10 extra HP... If you have regular 1.5 rocker arms - switch to 1.6 ratio roller rockers (if your springs can handle the additional lift). You can get good roller rockers for less then $200 and they can produce a couple more horsepower than the stock oned...
:cheers:
Olivier
[Modified by GrandSportC3, 10:35 PM 8/5/2002]
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (Stevo)
73-LS4, what do you mean by recurving the distributor?
Markm10431, no cats on a 69; besides I have headers and one hell of an exhaust.
Oliver, i believe 1.6 rollers would be wayyy too much for those springs
QuickVet.... I dont want to go that extreme ( i am driving the car to and from the track that is 90 miles away)
Mike... NO NAWZ!!!
so as it sits, gut the car and get it tuned on a dyno.. ok.. any more suggestions ?
Markm10431, no cats on a 69; besides I have headers and one hell of an exhaust.
Oliver, i believe 1.6 rollers would be wayyy too much for those springs
QuickVet.... I dont want to go that extreme ( i am driving the car to and from the track that is 90 miles away)
Mike... NO NAWZ!!!
so as it sits, gut the car and get it tuned on a dyno.. ok.. any more suggestions ?
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (Corzvette69)
Sometimes, the cheapest horsepower can be found by removing the burden your current horsepower has to deal with. That is, GET RID OF THE WEIGHT! The more you remove, the better off you are.
Other ideas? Look for the parasitic drag. Change over to synthetic oil. This is a proven one. And don't stop with the motor. Swap out the differential fluid and tranny fluid. Also, throw in a windage tray and a crank scraper. This won't help your low end power, but up top, it can help.
Then there's the mental horsepower. Shorter gears are great.
And ask any fifteen year old with a Honda gleaming in his eye, spoilers, 8-foot suckers, spot welded out of sheet steel pirated from a junk yard, can be good for loads of mental horsepower. And K&N air filters should never be overlooked either. Those are good for what? 80 HP? At least? Yeahhhhh baby!
Also, if you can drive downhill, that can help too. :yesnod:
Other ideas? Look for the parasitic drag. Change over to synthetic oil. This is a proven one. And don't stop with the motor. Swap out the differential fluid and tranny fluid. Also, throw in a windage tray and a crank scraper. This won't help your low end power, but up top, it can help.
Then there's the mental horsepower. Shorter gears are great.
And ask any fifteen year old with a Honda gleaming in his eye, spoilers, 8-foot suckers, spot welded out of sheet steel pirated from a junk yard, can be good for loads of mental horsepower. And K&N air filters should never be overlooked either. Those are good for what? 80 HP? At least? Yeahhhhh baby!
Also, if you can drive downhill, that can help too. :yesnod:
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (joeveto)
well.. i always wondered how a picinic table would look on the back of a C3 :rolleyes: but as of about 20 minutes ago. i broke out the CC and ordered a (drumroll please) ROAD DEMON carb :jester this fool be goin down like white on rice.. I'll let ya know how it goes when i get it on there. i cant wait for this hehe
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (Corzvette69)
The 600cfm Holley you have now appears to be more than adequate to feed your 327 - http://users.erols.com/srweiss/calccarb.htm
Going to a larger carb with no other changes is not going to net you any more power.
Is there a problem with the current carb that leads you to believe that it needs replacing?
[Modified by 45ACP, 2:16 AM 8/6/2002]
Going to a larger carb with no other changes is not going to net you any more power.
Is there a problem with the current carb that leads you to believe that it needs replacing?
[Modified by 45ACP, 2:16 AM 8/6/2002]
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (73 LS-4)
Drop as much weight as you can.
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (Corzvette69)
Take a few minutes to make yourself the better driver. Know your shift points by heart. 1/4 tank of fuel - max. Lose the spare tire, jack, and anything else that can be removed. Headlights should be down. A/C work??? If not, Yank the compressor!! Good luck. :cheers:
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Re: WANTED: CHEAP HP SECRETS (45ACP)
the carb that is currently on there has a problem staying in tune. if i tune the car on a nice calm day, no more then 4 hours later does it need to be tuned again. that is not something i want to keep. Everytime i do a pull past 5 grand, it begins to buck and stutter and basically not move. i bought the demon which even tho it is a tad bigger then the current holley, i can still lean it out a little bit.
so far what i have yanked is the following,
A/C compressor, lines and evap cooler
spare tire, jack, and tire iron
the system came out (just have stereo and stock speakers)
half of the interior is out.
i guess i dropped a good 200 lbs out of the car.. any more suggestions?
so far what i have yanked is the following,
A/C compressor, lines and evap cooler
spare tire, jack, and tire iron
the system came out (just have stereo and stock speakers)
half of the interior is out.
i guess i dropped a good 200 lbs out of the car.. any more suggestions?