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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 06:30 AM
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I'm looking to buy a braced roll bar (4 point) kit with a harness bar for my 79. I'm wondering how they connect to the frame, like are they welded from underneath or do you cut oversize holes and weld from above? I'm looking at buying from Jegs or Summit, has anyone had experience with these kits?
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I installed a 6 pt roll bar in my 73 it required welding from above and below. I cut holes in the flooring for access them re-glassed them in
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To use the Jegs main hoop, it requires welding to the frame down by the seat next to where the seat belts are located. If your very tall this could be a concern since your head is going to be very close to the top bar when not wearing a helmet. If your tall (6'+) there will be an fitment issue between you and the bar.

I had to custom fabricate my main hoop so I could sit it back closer to the rear window and I welded the main hoop to the frame just aft of the kick up area just outboard of the battery and storage compartments. It did require welding from the top (after cutting large holes in body), and from the underneath to get complete coverage.

Since my 76 is a street car and I don't drag race it much, I made mine removable along with the Kirkey seat. I used 4 high strength ARP bolts at each connection.



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Originally Posted by Jason Staley
To use the Jegs main hoop, it requires welding to the frame down by the seat next to where the seat belts are located. If your very tall this could be a concern since your head is going to be very close to the top bar when not wearing a helmet. If your tall (6'+) there will be an fitment issue between you and the bar.

I had to custom fabricate my main hoop so I could sit it back closer to the rear window and I welded the main hoop to the frame just aft of the kick up area just outboard of the battery and storage compartments. It did require welding from the top (after cutting large holes in body), and from the underneath to get complete coverage.
Most installed roll bars I have seen weld in this way, on top of the "kick up". I used the jegs kit and also went as far as to tighten and relax the bends on the hoop to get it very tight to the ceiling. The overall fit of the kit was, In my opinion, excellent. I did have to trim a bit around the fuel lines, to get the weld points away from them, but I wouldn't expect a kit to account for that (especially since I probably should have re routed the lines anyway.)

Even with the kit expect to put in a hard weekend of fab work on that roll bar.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll call Jegs on Monday
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Originally Posted by 73C34me
I installed a 6 pt roll bar in my 73 it required welding from above and below. I cut holes in the flooring for access them re-glassed them in
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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I'm in the middle of installing an NHRA legal 5 point in my '78.
Yes you have to cut large holes access the frame. I used a 4" hole saw for most of the cuts.
I bought my kit from Autoweld. They make a kit for our cars.
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Old Jan 3, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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Thanks for the Autoweld tip, that's where I'll probably go now.

Now for an ignorant question, I've never put a bar or cage in a car before, can the body still be removed after the cage is fitted?
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Originally Posted by Al Kay
Thanks for the Autoweld tip, that's where I'll probably go now.

Now for an ignorant question, I've never put a bar or cage in a car before, can the body still be removed after the cage is fitted?
Not without cutting the bars that weld to the frame.

I would highly recomend replacing the body mounts before installing roll bar/cage.
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Old Jan 4, 2015 | 12:13 PM
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After you cut holes in the floor and back area to weld the bar to the frame how do you think the body is going to come off? HBZ 81 C3 beat me to it with the reply.
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I've seen one or two where they are made to bolt it. You could weld plates to the end of the bars, drill holes in the plates, mark the frame with the roll bar in place, drill holes in the frame-then weld in flanged nuts to accept the bolts. Or maybe shape and weld 1/4" or thicker plates to the frame then drill and tap them but honestly if you really need to remove the body later on just cut the bar off and weld it back after-I wouldn't worry about it now.
Do you drag race? if so and your fast enough you will need a 5pt at least to be legal.
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