borgeson box output shaft alignment
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Racer
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From: Brooklin Ontario
borgeson box output shaft alignment
My new Borgeson PS box output shaft is not aligned the same as my factory box making it impossible to install. When I compare the boxes output stop to stop, looking at the output shaft keying they appear to be 22.5 degrees ish different. Can I adjust the output shaft? Any thoughts and all welcomed in desperation.
1969 BB conversion from STD
Later, Rog.
1969 BB conversion from STD
Later, Rog.
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I just installed the Borgeson power steering conversion kit in my 72 yesterday. I'm not sure I understand what keying you're talking about. My output shaft was splined and the pitman arm pushed back in the same place as it was on the old box without moving anything. I didn't see any keying on the output shaft, only splines. The only difference I noted, other than power steering, is that center to right lock and center to left lock is less than a turn and a half of the steering wheel.
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Racer
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From: Brooklin Ontario
I just installed the Borgeson power steering conversion kit in my 72 yesterday. I'm not sure I understand what keying you're talking about. My output shaft was splined and the pitman arm pushed back in the same place as it was on the old box without moving anything. I didn't see any keying on the output shaft, only splines. The only difference I noted, other than power steering, is that center to right lock and center to left lock is less than a turn and a half of the steering wheel.
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OK, sorry I see what you mean now. I left the wheels straight and the steering wheel locked. I centered the new box on the bench and when I bolted it up, the pitman arm slid right on without moving anything. The only thing I can think of is the old set up wasn't centered, or the new box wasn't centered on the tight spot when you tried. You don't have any choice for proper operation but to center the new box and make the change in your front to match. The new boxes are so quick that if not centered it will hit the stop very quickly if you start out off center. My only suggestion is to make sure the wheels are straight and the new box is centered. When you rotate the new box input, you can feel a tighter spot dead center. I put mine there and marked it with a line dead center top to keep from possibly moving it during install. Good luck and post back what you find.
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As well as centering your wheels, look to see that the tie rods are the same length. Possible it has been adjusted way left or right in the past to center the steering wheel. Just a thought.
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Stretch a taped-on string from the rear wheel to a jackstand near the front bumper/slide the jackstand so that the string barely touches the rear tire equally front and rear sidewall/turn the driver's tire so that the front and rear sidewall are equi-distant from the string/adjust the driver's side tie rod until the pitman arm will go onto the CENTERED steering box shaft/then adjust the passenger-side tie rod until that wheel has ZERO toe-in......now the front wheels are aligned close enough to drive it to an alignment shop.
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Racer
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From: Brooklin Ontario
Stretch a taped-on string from the rear wheel to a jackstand near the front bumper/slide the jackstand so that the string barely touches the rear tire equally front and rear sidewall/turn the driver's tire so that the front and rear sidewall are equi-distant from the string/adjust the driver's side tie rod until the pitman arm will go onto the CENTERED steering box shaft/then adjust the passenger-side tie rod until that wheel has ZERO toe-in......now the front wheels are aligned close enough to drive it to an alignment shop.
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That's the tight spot dead center I was talking about. If you use a crescent wrench to rotate it, you can feel quite a bit of resistance dead center, then it gets easy again.
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