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Old Mar 23, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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Looking for feedback on advancing a cam. I want to know what will happen if I install a cam that has a 109 LSA and install it at a 112 LSA.

Will installing the cam at 112 LSA lower the power band and smooth the idle out. Or the difference of 3 degrees between 109 and 112 degrees is not noticeable at idle. Strange question I'm sure.

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You cannot change LSA it is ground into the camshaft. What you can do is advance or retard a cam. Read these two links.
http://www.compcams.com/Pages/413/ca...ion-angle.aspx

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...formance-test/
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Originally Posted by MelWff
You cannot change LSA it is ground into the camshaft. What you can do is advance or retard a cam. Read these two links.
http://www.compcams.com/Pages/413/ca...ion-angle.aspx

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...formance-test/
Thanks for the feedback.
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Originally Posted by c66vet
Thanks for the feedback.
I was trying to determine how rough/radical the idle would be with this cam in a 540. Cam spec's 250/254 @.50, 714/680 LSA 109.
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Hmmmn...that depends on your idea of rough and radical.

I ran a 266/272 on a 112 in my 540 for years and considered it sort of "wussy" sounding even with 11.5 compression. Ran like a **** though! It idled around 1100 comfortably...could go lower...but I liked it there.

I've got a little 248/248 on a 114 in it now with the twin turbos. Interestingly doesn't sound a whole lot different to me,,,but I took out 2.5 points of compression also.

Is this a solid roller or a hyd roller?

Either way, I wouldn't expect it to idle bad at all. It will have very sharp throttle response and strong mid range pull.

What trans will be in it...stick or auto?

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Advancing/ retarding the cam will change the intake centerline.
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To specifically answer your question....retarding the cam from a "straight up" installed ICL of 109 to 112 (assuming this IS a 109 LSA cam)...you'll move the powerband upwards...not downwards. It will likely make a little more HP at higher RPM...a little less at lower.

3* won't typically move things a lot...but it will show the trend.

You'll still have the same overlap...yet with a later intake closing point...which will tend to lower cranking compression slightly and possibly make it idle a little worse.

Nothing dramatic...but typically that's the wrong way to go. Advancing it would build cylinder pressure at lower speeds an increase vacuum by closing intake a little earlier...which tends to help low speed operation.

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Thanks for all the helpful input. I plan to leave the cam as is at 109 LSA.
Using a 5 speed transmission.

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