Vacuum timing
What a farce.






If we had timing numbers from a timing light to work with it may be easier to advise on what your timing should be, roughly. Without that information were kind of shooting in the dark.
If it doesn't detonate under WOT on a warmish to hot day then it's likely not too advanced.
If it doesn't run excessively hot on a warmish to hot day then it's likely it's not too retarded.
How is the throttle response? Nice and crisp. Problably good tune. Lazy response, timing might be a bit retarded or carb rich.
Mixture and timing work together. One is not exclusively in charge of the idle, cruise or WOT performance over the other. They have to work in concert to achieve optimum performance.
Short of you tuning the car yourself, I would take the tuner at his word unless you have symptoms of a timing or carb problem.
Yes, your vacuum will increase as you idle up the engine while parked. How high it gets is dependent on various factors, not the least of which is your cam, which won't be changed on a tune and has to be accommodated to match your timing and mixture tune.
I think Cardo is thinking about WOT operation or high load, large throttle deflections when he mentions the vacuum dropping as the throttle blades are opened.
When you set the timing at 36* @WOT & 3000 RPM (or whatever point you choose), you are making a best guess adjustment of the timing where the engine will spend 1% of its time. Your engine (assuming it's not a race engine in a race car at a race track) spends 99% of its time at less than 100% throttle and less than 3000 RPM. Letting the lower load, lower RPM timing fall "where it may" just results in lower fuel mileage, crappier idle quality and drivability, and hotter exhaust valve and coolant temperatures.
Playing with the idle and low RPM timing to get higher/highest manifold vacuum and best drivability will give you the "other side" of your engine's desired timing curve. There's then members on this forum who can refurbish/recurve your distributor to match the total spectrum of your engine's timing requirements.
Actually Lars has a Sun machine who has written technical specs on this subject. He is one of the best of the best ! I would reach out to him. He can curve your distributor up to the cam/motor specs if thats what you choose to do. Or ask for one of his papers for secrets...


BTW i do understand that links writer is tuning with vac for idle circuit - but nothing for the mid range or WOT. Nothing. If u can find something that that author says then copy and post it. But u wont because it really was a farce to say so in the first place.
The total timing curve should take into all-around use (cruising vs WOT, for instance) for best results.
http://www.gregsengine.com/using-a-vacuum-gauge.html
Note the section about exhaust restriction if you have decreasing vacuum to 3000 RPM.
Starting with the engine at idle, slowly increase engine speed to 3,000 RPM, engine vacuum should be equal to or higher than idle vacuum at 3,000 RPM. If vacuum decreases at higher engine RPM's, an excessive exhaust back pressure is probably present.
A certain amount of vacuum at idle is associated with a certain idle speed. So if you are ldling at 500 rpm then you're gonna see lower vacuum vs idling at 800 rpm.
Is your idle rpm pretty low?
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