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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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getting close to buying a engine,been on jegs site and looking at blue print crate engines, are they good or should I look elsewere.
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 08:28 PM
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I've heard reasonably good reports. Which ones are you looking at, and where are you located?
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getting close to buying a engine,been on jegs site and looking at blue print crate engines, are they good or should I look elsewere.

If you simply want more torque I suggest buying a mild 383". Or jerk yours out and have any automotive machine shop convert it to a 383" at half the price. Or do it yourself at 1/4 the price.
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getting close to buying a engine,been on jegs site and looking at blue print crate engines, are they good or should I look elsewere.
This is the one I bought blueprint. I'm very happy with it.

http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ecs-bp38313ct1
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I used Skip white engines 427 sbc .. Motor pulls like a nose diving fighter jet .. By the time you hit 6300 rpm your knuckles are white from gripping the steering wheel . ...

Connected to a 4l80e with a 10" 3600 stall ( with lock up ) and 3.92 gears it has the manors of a daily driver and the attitude of a drag motor ..

Check them out you can get quite a package for a competitive price..
Fully ready to install ..
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/...?Item=2CHEVCRT
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I would only recommend Blueprint or ATK for budget crate engines.
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by havesometo
This is the one I bought blueprint. I'm very happy with it.

http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...ecs-bp38313ct1
That's a good price for a 383. Cheaper than doing it yourself.

I would prefer to do it my self, as toobroke suggested, but I can't do it for that cheap. Especially considering the time invested.

That engine with better flowing heads, more valve lift, stiffer springs and on a 108 LSA would be a 500 HP unit. That would be more $$ though. As is, it's good enough for anything most people would want.

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thanks guys,located southern oh,took my engine to shop and machinist said it was trash,Im looking at a 355 dress/310hp just something affordable,
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thanks guys,located southern oh,took my engine to shop and machinist said it was trash,Im looking at a 355 dress/310hp just something affordable,
The Blueprint 355 engine looks to use the same heads as the 383. The cam specs seem a bit catered to high RPM power. probably at the expense of low RPM torque.

Cam Type: Flat Tappet
.480 Intake .486 Exhaust
229 Intake / 230 Exhaust duration
@ .050

It is also a flat tappet cam. You'll be stuck with high zinc oils only. Their 383 offering seems a little better, but again flat tappet.
If budget is your restriction then the GM Base engine might be what you're looking for.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/na...FQEcaQodfFsISw
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GM Target Short Block
Aluminum heads in the 185 Range
Hyd roller
400HP/400#/ft
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GM Target Short Block
Aluminum heads in the 185 Range
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400HP/400#/ft
+1 here.....I have built that combo many times....you will not beat the price.
Jegs ships it free for $1349 in my last brochure.

Add the cam,heads,intake.....

You can build the whole thing carb to pan for less than 4k

MAKE SURE you use a 64cc head...as the TM has a dish piston.

As for blueprint engines? They are a good product....not quite a real value once all of the other components are added.

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Originally Posted by diehrd
I used Skip white engines 427 sbc .. Motor pulls like a nose diving fighter jet .. By the time you hit 6300 rpm your knuckles are white from gripping the steering wheel . ...

Connected to a 4l80e with a 10" 3600 stall ( with lock up ) and 3.92 gears it has the manors of a daily driver and the attitude of a drag motor ..

Check them out you can get quite a package for a competitive price..
Fully ready to install ..
http://www.skipwhiteperformance.com/...?Item=2CHEVCRT

I aslo bought from Skip White. Very good customer service. I worked with Al over the phone on all my needs. Well built engines at gereat prices.

I specked out a 383 stroker. My first call out was exspected to give me 475 to 485 HP. Al recomended raising my compression form 9.7:1 to 10.5:1 to get ut toward the 500 mark. It was ran on the dyno and produced 496.4 HP and 468 tq @ 6200 RPM.

Its installed in my car however I have not strated it in the car yet. I have no concerns. Ather breakin is done it should produce 500 + HP. So Im calling it 500 all day.

Here is the youtube vidieo:

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It was ran on the dyno and produced 496.4 HP and 468 tq @ 6200 RPM.

Its installed in my car however I have not strated it in the car yet. I have no concerns. Ather breakin is done it should produce 500 + HP. So Im calling it 500 all day.
If it was run on the dyno, it's already broken in.
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X2 if it survived the dyno its seated in and ready to be hammered on


Those long break in periods we remember just arent needed anymore

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Originally Posted by StraubTech
GM Target Short Block
Aluminum heads in the 185 Range
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400HP/400#/ft
+1 here.....I have built that combo many times....you will not beat the price.
Jegs ships it free for $1349 in my last brochure.
You guys got a link to that short block?
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Here is the long long block for $2100
https://sdparts.com/details/gm-perfo...parts/12499529
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Originally Posted by StraubTech
Here is the long long block for $2100
https://sdparts.com/details/gm-perfo...parts/12499529
Ok, looks to be the same engine I linked.
My question is to your statement of producing 400 HP with the short block section.
Specifically the pistons use on that short block. Says they are cast aluminum. Bottom of the barrel production units it sounds like.

What HP level do you believe they could tolerate?
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Originally Posted by StraubTech
Here is the long long block for $2100
https://sdparts.com/details/gm-perfo...parts/12499529
Still has the crummy heads.....
Has a 350/350 cam in it.....TM is a better deal IMHO.

The TM has cast pistons in it and if you run on the street and keep RPM's below 5500....you will never have a problem.

It is amazing what these cast pistons will take.....no nitrous or boost...but N/A they work great.

What do you think Edelbrock uses to build their crate 350?
The Target Master shortblock.

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It is a long block BTW:

http://www.jegs.com/p/Chevrolet-Perf...52506/10002/-1

It was $1349 last month......deal must be over.....
You cannot beat this....
When I build them.....I sell off the heads and cam/lifters/pushrods/rockers for $250.

I built one of the above mentioned deals with Edelbrock RPM heads/intake/carb and a 292H magnum Comp Cam.....it sent my Dads 32 Ford 3 window down the 1/4 mile at 13.0 secs.
A guy owns it here in Texas....12 years later and it runs like a watch.

Jebby

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The TM has cast pistons in it and if you run on the street and keep RPM's below 5500....you will never have a problem.
So a guy could build a 10:1/10.5:1 CR engine with good heads and make 400HP with these pistons, and the pistons would survive for a reasonable period of time?
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