Timing Chains; Link Belt, Single Roller, Double Roller, True Roller, Belt, Or Gear?
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Timing Chains; Link Belt, Single Roller, Double Roller, True Roller, Belt, Or Gear?
Now days we have numerous methods of driving a camshaft so which method is the best? The OEM "Link Belt" style is extremely strong but wears (stretches) faster than the other styles. The most common aftermarket style is the #35 double wide "non-roller" chain that are not really "roller chains" but rather round solid pins that look like rollers (hence the non-roller designation). True Roller and Cloyes makes true double wide #35 roller chains but as they have more parts (and more wear points) they seem to have shorter life spans than the cheaper double wide non-roller chains. Then we have the single-wide #50 roller chains that uses a much larger round pin and they can also have non-roller or true roller pins. Then we have the "timing belt" style and the "gear drive" style. So which one is the best for you?
I have always used the cheaper double wide non-roller chains because of their low cost and reliability and the fact I seldom beat on my engines but other people have their preferences.
What is your preference and why?
I have always used the cheaper double wide non-roller chains because of their low cost and reliability and the fact I seldom beat on my engines but other people have their preferences.
What is your preference and why?
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Like most items of the sbc there are so many options it makes your head spin. I dont think there major gains in using the heavier duty timing sets. There are plenty of super stock racers using the stock timing sets. I will say the larger the cam and the greater lift the more vlv spring press needed and then the stronger timing sets can really help.
Myself ive always want to run a gear drive but all the vendor gear drives for street motors are 3 or 4 gear sets to keep the original cam rotation - which adds to timing loses. NASCAR used (uses) a 2 gear set with a reverse rotation cam. This was back in Smokey Y. days and it really was the ticket back then as it killed the timing scatter and timing lags of using a chain drive.
But now i read they have both "wet" and "dry" belted systems that interest me. They advertise greater accuracy, kill vlv train harmonics and give long life. Comp has one in the $600 range. Dont know how long either would last on a DD but im sure we will see them become popular if they do what they say they do.
What im saying here if u need trick parts for a big cam and hi-press vlv springs then maybe a double roller can help. But for a mostly street car u really just want a good quality set but nothing fancy should be needed.
Myself ive always want to run a gear drive but all the vendor gear drives for street motors are 3 or 4 gear sets to keep the original cam rotation - which adds to timing loses. NASCAR used (uses) a 2 gear set with a reverse rotation cam. This was back in Smokey Y. days and it really was the ticket back then as it killed the timing scatter and timing lags of using a chain drive.
But now i read they have both "wet" and "dry" belted systems that interest me. They advertise greater accuracy, kill vlv train harmonics and give long life. Comp has one in the $600 range. Dont know how long either would last on a DD but im sure we will see them become popular if they do what they say they do.
What im saying here if u need trick parts for a big cam and hi-press vlv springs then maybe a double roller can help. But for a mostly street car u really just want a good quality set but nothing fancy should be needed.
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Best is Belt Drive. The Hyvo (Spelling) chain the Roush developed is considered the best when it comes to chain and gear sets.
I have sold the Rollmaster with with Iwis chain now since 1997. The chain is pre-stretched in assemblies. Most chain is pre-stretched in runs.
I have sold the Rollmaster with with Iwis chain now since 1997. The chain is pre-stretched in assemblies. Most chain is pre-stretched in runs.
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A nice double roller is your best bet in 95% of applications. If you're gonna spin he crap out of it, have huge amount of valve spring pressure or plan on doing alot of cam timing adjustments you might want to look into something else but for a street/mild strip car a double roller will serve you well.
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Remember this? (blast from the past):
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ng-chains.html
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w/dug, steel sprockets and a stock GM oughta do the job on most apps unless youre using a real stiff spring (solid roller) and some rpm
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