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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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Will this work on my 1971 LS-5 454 BB?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROCHESTER-QUADRAJET-CARBURETOR-CHEVROLET-454-CID-7-4-L-/370480302011?hash=item564258c7bb&vxp=mtr
I'm not savy to carbs and their different types of chokes...
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 05:08 PM
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That one is set up with an electric choke, your 71 came a divorced choke.
You may be able to convert if you're not looking for originality. I don't know whether the electric choke can be removed, converted to the type your 71 came with.

I'd suggest finding out who rebuilt it. I've heard of some mass rebuilders who seem to be okay. I had a Q-Jet rebuilt by Holley once. Piece of junk, had to replace the main body, hacked badly, couldn't get a decent idle. Local shop told me they've seen another which couldn't be tuned.
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why not have your existing one rebuilt...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...endations.html
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 05:28 PM
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Absolute waste of money. It looks real pretty, but it will run like dirt. Read Lars' papers on re-manufactured carbs. If you have the original carb to your car, guard it like your first borne child. If you want your carb rebuilt, send it to a reputable shop like Cliff Ruggles.

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I am told the carb is not original to the car.

After the heli-coil insert and rebuilding it /shipping will cost almost $500 for what it needs.
I'm not sure it's worth paying that out for a not-original carb.
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Originally Posted by 72and86
Will this work on my 1971 LS-5 454 BB?

I'm not savy to carbs and their different types of chokes...
Just curious, what carburetor to you have now?

If you have a manual, the correct Quadrajet number is 7041205, an automatic is 7041204.
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Originally Posted by 72and86
I am told the carb is not original to the car.

After the heli-coil insert and rebuilding it /shipping will cost almost $500 for what it needs.
I'm not sure it's worth paying that out for a not-original carb.
I have probably spent more than that after wasting time and money on a commercial rebuilt. I'd think you would want a carb which you can simply drop on and go.

$500 sounds a bit high but not outrageous. What's the breakdown of costs? I don't recall what the rebuild fee was from Cliff Ruggles. You need a helicoil which adds $45.

A true original may cost much more, getting hard to find.
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Originally Posted by 71 Green 454
Just curious, what carburetor to you have now?

If you have a manual, the correct Quadrajet number is 7041205, an automatic is 7041204.
mine is
7041208 DN
1742

I was told it's from a truck
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Originally Posted by 72and86
mine is
7041208 dn
1742

i was told it's from a truck
7041208=chev 71 350 series 20 & 30 truck

I'd get it rebuilt by Lars, Cliff Ruggles or Oles Carburetor & Electric

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Old Sep 22, 2015 | 07:33 AM
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here is another option instead of ebay.... i have a jet perf quadrajet on my 79 L82. has performed flawlessly for years now... just fyi.
http://jetchip.com/shop/performance-...g-block-q-jet/

http://www.jegs.com/i/JET+Performanc...36003/10002/-1

https://www.smicarburetor.com/produc.../productID/853

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Old Sep 22, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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I wouldn't waste time and money on that eBay carb - often commercially rebuilt units are a mixed bag of parts, and when there are problems with them often they can't really be sorted out because of holes drilled all over and incorrectly paired air horns and bowls, etc.

If you don't like your current quadrajet, find a good core somewhere for $30 and have that rebuilt instead. You can usually identify a good core when you see it - the screws and castings show evidence of tampering pretty quickly.
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The 7041208 would work well on your car even though it's designated as a "truck" carb. The original flow areas are 3.1062 at idle and 3.7699 (in thousands of inches) at WOT with BA rods in the secondary. Lars used to recommend a slightly leaner idle (2.9806 and 3.768 and CH rods (74 jets, 41 rods and CH secondary for BBs) and I have found that to be a very good combination on both my BBs. As posted, if your carb is beyond repair, buy an unmolested carb (never opened, good inlet threads and un-warped from over tightening of hold down bolts) and rebuild it yourself or have Cliff do it.
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Old Sep 22, 2015 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BBCorv70
I have probably spent more than that after wasting time and money on a commercial rebuilt. I'd think you would want a carb which you can simply drop on and go.

$500 sounds a bit high but not outrageous. What's the breakdown of costs? I don't recall what the rebuild fee was from Cliff Ruggles. You need a helicoil which adds $45.

A true original may cost much more, getting hard to find.
Here's the price breakdown:
$25 Rebuild kit from eBay (was told it was junk parts) (paid)
45 Helicoil insert (paid)
13 Shipping to insert Helicoil (paid)
406 Rebuild
15 Return shipping
= $504

Cliff has it now. The bad news came when he looked at it (after installing the helical) relaying a host of problems one of which 3 of the 4 plugs are leaking. He also mentioned the crappy rebuild kit and so many other things --my head was spinning. He said it was not set up for BB LS5...
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Old Sep 22, 2015 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 72and86
Here's the price breakdown:
$25 Rebuild kit from eBay (was told it was junk parts) (paid)
45 Helicoil insert (paid)
13 Shipping to insert Helicoil (paid)
406 Rebuild
15 Return shipping
= $504

Cliff has it now. The bad news came when he looked at it (after installing the helical) relaying a host of problems one of which 3 of the 4 plugs are leaking. He also mentioned the crappy rebuild kit and so many other things --my head was spinning. He said it was not set up for BB LS5...
I don't recall what I paid Cliff when he rebuilt one of my carbs, I can look it up later. The leaking plugs seem to be an issue as these carbs age. Sounds like the carb was taken from a truck, dropped onto your big block? One of my carbs came from a truck. Lars gave it a massage, runs great. You should be getting a carb in far better condition than when you started, probably much better than any Q-Jet you can buy for that price.
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Old Sep 22, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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If you can find the correct year carb and number for your corvette you'd be better off in the long run. I would start there . Seems like throwing money at a incorrect carb is a waste for a valuable car like yours.

I buy the correct core and start there., or the correct restored carb for your car. The correct carb is an asset for an original BB car .

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Originally Posted by LS4 PILOT
If you can find the correct year carb and number for your corvette you'd be better off in the long run. I would start there . Seems like throwing money at a incorrect carb is a waste for a valuable car like yours.

I buy the correct core and start there., or the correct restored carb for your car. The correct carb is an asset for an original BB car .

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If the owner has a carb which is usable while looking for a 'correct' carb, and the rest of the car is truly numbers matching, sure, he could look for another. I don't know how plentiful the supply is for correct 71 LS5 carbs, assuming he would want proper date stamps as well. If he has no other carb it would seem he has a choice, get this one fixed up, look for another later, or let the car sit until a numbers carb turns up. The core has to be not only correct but must be rebuild-able as well.

Another possibility may be to repair an incorrect carb so he may drive the car. Locate a 'correct' carb, have it refurbished, then sell the incorrect carb or keep it for a spare. These Q-Jets are getting harder to find in good condition.
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Finding a qjet original for your car could be tough. Here is an example of a restored ls5 Quadrajet for a Muncie corvette. It is just under $1500.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/1971-Corvette-454-4-speed-Rochester-Quadrajet-carburetor-7041205-dtd-2190-/181759389370?nav=SEARCH

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Originally Posted by Sigforty
Finding a qjet original for your car could be tough. Here is an example of a restored ls5 Quadrajet for a Muncie corvette. It is just under $1500.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/1971-Corvette-...370?nav=SEARCH
Yes, I saw that.
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Originally Posted by 72and86
Here's the price breakdown:
$25 Rebuild kit from eBay (was told it was junk parts) (paid)
45 Helicoil insert (paid)
13 Shipping to insert Helicoil (paid)
406 Rebuild
15 Return shipping
= $504

Cliff has it now. The bad news came when he looked at it (after installing the helical) relaying a host of problems one of which 3 of the 4 plugs are leaking. He also mentioned the crappy rebuild kit and so many other things --my head was spinning. He said it was not set up for BB LS5...
I paid $310 for my Cliff Ruggles rebuild, in 2012. Didn't need much more than a basic rebuild.
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Well, I got the carb back from Cliff and bolted it on. It still seems to idle rough and takes 5 starts to get it going from cold. It didn't do that before, (I didn't play with the carb settings only tried to set the idle.)

When revved it and I let off the peddle it drops down to 200 RPM and flutters with dying or dies. I just want a consistent idle at 7-800 RPM :toe tap:

I was hoping for a trouble free smooth idle for the money I paid. What am I doing wrong?
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