Distributor/Timing Help Needed!
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Distributor/Timing Help Needed!
I had a shop set the timing on my distributor after an intake swap. The new hold down came loose and the distributor went out of timing. I converted to an HEI distributor and the shop said they marked it in case it ever needed to be reset. I got a different clamp, but how do I reset the timing?
Thank you!
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I do have a timing light but have not used it really other than just messing around with it. I am pretty good with mechanical stuff, but lost when it comes to distributors. I don't know where/what he marked. He just said he marked the distributor in case I ever needed to reset the timing. What do I need to look for? How difficult should it be for me to reset timing?
Thank you!
Thank you!
Melting Slicks
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I do have a timing light but have not used it really other than just messing around with it. I am pretty good with mechanical stuff, but lost when it comes to distributors. I don't know where/what he marked. He just said he marked the distributor in case I ever needed to reset the timing. What do I need to look for? How difficult should it be for me to reset timing?
Thank you!
Thank you!
Melting Slicks
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From: Great Plains Iowa
I do have a timing light but have not used it really other than just messing around with it. I am pretty good with mechanical stuff, but lost when it comes to distributors. I don't know where/what he marked. He just said he marked the distributor in case I ever needed to reset the timing. What do I need to look for? How difficult should it be for me to reset timing?
Thank you!
Thank you!
The shop most likely put a reference mark on the inner fender where the HEI cap was pointing. Ask the shop what they did to "mark it" so it can be put back in the same every time it gets removed. I have a thin white line painted on the top of my cap and that line points at a black line I put on the inner edge of my right fender. So any time I take my HEI out I can put it back in and rotate it until the white line points at the black line and be within 1 degree plus or minus.
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There are a number of good videos that will show you how to do it rather than a written explanation here. Google "set initial timing chevy v8 youtube". If you have a light it's an easy job once you can actually see how it's done.
Last edited by CanadaGrant; Nov 23, 2015 at 12:48 PM.
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The 81 has the computer controlled carb and distributor, not HEI. I replaced intake/carb/distributor/etc to convert it to a traditional non-computer controlled setup.
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These articles might help you understand a little more about timing.
http://www.lbfun.com/warehouse/tech_...%20ADVANCE.pdf
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...long-post.html
Once you learn how to do it you won't have to pay a shop anymore.
http://www.lbfun.com/warehouse/tech_...%20ADVANCE.pdf
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...long-post.html
Once you learn how to do it you won't have to pay a shop anymore.
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Hei
Is your timing light a dial back model?
Is there a reason why you are not asking the shop exactly how they marked the position of the distributor?
Last edited by MelWff; Nov 23, 2015 at 03:22 PM.
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Do you know exactly which distributor was used and whether the advance curve was modified? The stock timing on an 81 with computer control was 6 degrees BTDC which is very tame.
Is your timing light a dial back model?
Is there a reason why you are not asking the shop exactly how they marked the position of the distributor?
Is your timing light a dial back model?
Is there a reason why you are not asking the shop exactly how they marked the position of the distributor?
The distributor was not modified. My timing light is one of the digital ones where you can set the desired timing. I have not contacted the shop because it was a few months ago and don't remember which of their employees worked on it.
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If the instructions are accurate, step 10, you have 20 to 22 degrees of crankshaft mechanical advance at 3,000 RPM, I assume the instruction numbers are distributor degrees which are 1/2 crankshaft. So with the vacuum advance disconnected set the initial timing to 16 to 14 BTDC. Then reconnect the vacuum advance.
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...i%206-2-08.pdf
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...i%206-2-08.pdf
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If the instructions are accurate, step 10, you have 20 to 22 degrees of crankshaft mechanical advance at 3,000 RPM, I assume the instruction numbers are distributor degrees which are 1/2 crankshaft. So with the vacuum advance disconnected set the initial timing to 16 to 14 BTDC.
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...i%206-2-08.pdf
http://static.summitracing.com/globa...i%206-2-08.pdf
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Yes disconnected and plugged. We are aiming for a total of 36 degrees mechanical so the 20 to 22 plus the 16 to 14 initial will give the desired 36. This is assuming you are running premium gasoline, 93 octane.
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Thank you for pointing that out. The 36 degrees is the desired amount of timing IF a high octane fuel is used which means its too much for 87 octane use. And the 36 degrees was the desired amount back in the days when 100+ octane was readily available. With today's 91 to 93 octane I feel 36 degrees is pushing it and 33 to 34 would be a much better choice to avoid pinging under a heavy load.
I'm running 91 octane in my 10 to 1 compression ratio 454" and I found the most advance I can run under a heavy load is 31-32 degrees and even then I get a tiny bit of pinging in 100 degree weather.