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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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When I had my dash half way installed every light and switch in my 1968 convertible restoration project was working. Now that I have the dash, center console and rear compartment light installed my interior lights stay on when the doors are closed. I pulled out left and right front door jamb switches to check the wires and the lights are still on. I am looking at the wiring diagram to try to figure out where I could be picking up a ground that I am not supposed to but I am not sure I can figure out where to start isolating the circuit. Does anyone have an idea where I could have gone wrong or where I should look to isolate the ground circuit? Is there another switch in the circuit that I have missed? I also have a new head light switch that seemed to be operating the interior lights correctly originally. Thanks for the help.
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Thanks for the reply. I was hoping I had missed something. The switch originally worked correctly. As you could assume I was hoping not to pull the dash again. Oh well. Chalk it up to yet another C3 challenge.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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The dash and center console lights are grounded all the time. Turning on the park or headlights switches 12v to them. The rear compartment light always has 12v and opening the door or rotating the headlamp switch grounds it along with the courtesy lights. The dash lights are not on that ground circuit with the courtesy and rear compartment lights. Either something is wired wrong feeding voltage where it shouldn't, or you have more than one issue. Are the courtesy lights coming on and off with the door opening.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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The courtesy lights are always on when the battery is hooked up. Maybe I am picking up 12v somewhere when I finished installing the dash, gauge cluster and center console. No other dash lights are backing feeding which I assume might happen if that were the case. All other lights and gauges seem to be operating correctly.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 09:14 PM
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I am thinking I need to pull the plug off of the light switch to see if the ground goes away. If it does not then it's really going to be fun to find.
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Old Dec 23, 2015 | 11:22 PM
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I am thinking I need to pull the plug off of the light switch to see if the ground goes away. If it does not then it's really going to be fun to find.
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The courtesy lights are on there own circuit separate from the other dash lights. The only common link they have is the head light switch. I'd start there. Is the new switch a repro or a real NOS GM? I wouldn't trust a repro headlight switch on my car.

If the door jam switches are pulled from the body the courtesy lights shouldn't work.

Also try pulling the courtesy light fuse. Do the lights still work?

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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 04:47 AM
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If your headlight switch is turned all the way to the left the interior lights will turn on and stay on until the switch is turned slightly to the right.
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Old Dec 24, 2015 | 07:47 AM
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I think it is a repo switch.

The position of the switch does not matter even with the door switches pulled.

I think I will try the fuse first to make sure the problem is limited to that circuit. From there I will have to pull the light switch. I still have the original. I replaced it just for good measures while everything was tore apart.

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You've got two different issues. They may have a common cause, but the dash lights don't come on with a change of ground. They are always grounded and 12v is applied through the switch. The courtesy lights are the opposite. They always have 12v and turning the switch or opening the doors applies a ground. Unless (and this is wild conjecture) you have the two connected and the 12v is feeding from the courtesy light circuit to the dash lamps, and that provides a ground for the courtesy lights through the dash lights. Check to see if you can find any place the courtesy light wire is connected to the dash lamp wires.
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I pulled the fuse quick and the lights go out. Because they worked at one time my bet is something in the switch but it will take a little to time to get at it. If I unplug the switch the lights should go out. If they don't then it will get real interesting. I will let you know how it comes out.
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A quick update. After thinking about it for a couple of days I decided today was the day to take the dash apart to find the light problem. Fortunately the fix was easy. I had the dash lose and was starting to pull it out when the light started to flicker. I crawled underneath again and found that the drivers side bulb must have popped out when I was installing the tube to the drivers side vent. I looked to be still in place but pulled out just far enough to short the base of the bulb to the metal bracket. I popped it back into the hole and all is good. It shows once again that it is the simplest things that can bite you in the back side. Thanks for everyone's input.
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Great find! If you had started working in another area, you might still be searching for the problem.
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