how hard is installing a clutch pedal assembly?
#21
Drifting
I just did this for the first time last summer - installed a TKO 600 in place of an automatic.
AS described above, the booster will have to be unbolted but does not have to come all the way out - but I replaced mine while I was that far in.
Steering column should come out, you will want the room. I also removed my gauges but not the dash. Helps to pull the driver seat too.
The most important thing is to take your time and don't rush anything.
AS described above, the booster will have to be unbolted but does not have to come all the way out - but I replaced mine while I was that far in.
Steering column should come out, you will want the room. I also removed my gauges but not the dash. Helps to pull the driver seat too.
The most important thing is to take your time and don't rush anything.
Steering column and brackets have to come out. You will need to get the LH dash out of your way after the steering column is out.
It really is not that hard and taking it apart is easy. You will want a second set of hands when it comes to putting the pedal box back in.
I just had all of mine out to replace the plastic bushings in the pedal box.
#23
I just completed the auto to manual swap. It is hard. Mine is a manual brake car, so the MC mounts on bolts that come through from the inside. Power brakes are opposite and easier. Had to tape the bolts to a 3' extension PLUS they are carriage bolts and will spin until the square head boss engages the bracket. Had to take seats, dash, column, wiper door all out
#24
Race Director
It sound like maybe you've done some automatic to manual conversions. Do you have any idea if the plate that supports the Z bar (the clutch linkage attached between the frame and engine) can be bolted to the chassis? I noticed that the latest C3 has a bolt on plate, meanwhile all earlier C3's are welded. I am curious if I could by the later plate, and go that route. Maybe drill some through holes, using nuts and bolts,.. but I don't know if the chassis is exactly the same shape.
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rcsbls2 (01-29-2022)
#25
Race Director
Hopefully people know that you can buy the pedals and bushings and make an automatic car pedal assembly into a clutch car and do not need to buy the entire unit from another car. Just saying.
Oddly enough the pedals can not be serviced while the pedal assembly is in the car. The main pivot shaft can not come out....I have tried to save time
Not that this matters...but I might remove the master cylinder from the booster and get the booster out of the way....and this all depends on what I may need to do in the engine compartment area that would cause me to remove the master cylinder so I have better access to certain areas. As for supporting the booster/master cylinder assembly...that is not a concern and quite easy.
I have done this enough that I do not open up the brake system and have to deal with having to bleed the brakes out. Just one less step that I have to charge my customers for.
DUB
Oddly enough the pedals can not be serviced while the pedal assembly is in the car. The main pivot shaft can not come out....I have tried to save time
Not that this matters...but I might remove the master cylinder from the booster and get the booster out of the way....and this all depends on what I may need to do in the engine compartment area that would cause me to remove the master cylinder so I have better access to certain areas. As for supporting the booster/master cylinder assembly...that is not a concern and quite easy.
I have done this enough that I do not open up the brake system and have to deal with having to bleed the brakes out. Just one less step that I have to charge my customers for.
DUB
#26
PedalBushings
I wander if the after market kits to convert an automatic to manual are of good quality. My worst nightmere is all the work getting these pedals swapped, and having some cheap material fail in a year. I think that happened with my T top bushings, but those are an easy replacement. Does anyone have any preferences or suggestions on the best pedal bushings??
#27
Race Director
I wander if the after market kits to convert an automatic to manual are of good quality. My worst nightmere is all the work getting these pedals swapped, and having some cheap material fail in a year. I think that happened with my T top bushings, but those are an easy replacement. Does anyone have any preferences or suggestions on the best pedal bushings??
Even the factory pedals can fail in time.
The pedals I have seen look really stout and the welds look like they penetrated well also.
As for the bushings..I do not see the need for any concern. They are plastic like the origianls. Getting them for a Corvette vendor (like Willcox Corvette) will do just fine.
DUB
#28
PedalBushings
[QUOTE=DUB;1596352385]Come join me in my 'nightmare' just a bout every day at work. From personal/professional experience. I do my best and not worry about the 'what-if's'. Worrying about stuff like that will drive you crazy...because I bet that when you go and drive your car, you are not freaking out that you might get into an accident and actually need to use your insurance....and leave the car in the garage. All I do is to take as manypossible problems out of the equation SO I do not have to do it again. Sometimes my hands are tied and it is what it is.
Even the factory pedals can fail in time.The pedals I have seen look really stout and the welds look like they penetrated well also.
As for the bushings..I do not see the need for any concern. They are plastic like the origianls. Getting them for a Corvette vendor (like Willcox Corvette) will do just fine.
DUB[/QUOTE
Thanks for your feedback. I agree about the not worrying, once the work is done, but thought it was worth asking. I read some threads about the bushings, and someone said to stay away from the black colored ones. Someone else said they modified the hole and used a brass bushing and a bolt, after theirs failed. I guess its the engineer in me that has me worried about the material used by after market products, especially since so much stuff is made over seas nowadays.
#29
Race Director
Thanks for your feedback. I agree about the not worrying, once the work is done, but thought it was worth asking. I read some threads about the bushings, and someone said to stay away from the black colored ones. Someone else said they modified the hole and used a brass bushing and a bolt, after theirs failed. I guess its the engineer in me that has me worried about the material used by after market products, especially since so much stuff is made over seas nowadays.
I am oftentimes suspect to specific parts being called out even though I run into them from time to time. So I am NOT doubting that people recommend to stay away from the black bushings...but I have to wonder who put them in and was there a burr or something that they did not see or take into account that cause pre-mature failure of that black bushing.
DUB
#30
Hey...it NEVER hurts to ask. And in can appreciate you being an Engineer...so I know how you think.
I am oftentimes suspect to specific parts being called out even though I run into them from time to time. So I am NOT doubting that people recommend to stay away from the black bushings...but I have to wonder who put them in and was there a burr or something that they did not see or take into account that cause pre-mature failure of that black bushing.
DUB
I am oftentimes suspect to specific parts being called out even though I run into them from time to time. So I am NOT doubting that people recommend to stay away from the black bushings...but I have to wonder who put them in and was there a burr or something that they did not see or take into account that cause pre-mature failure of that black bushing.
DUB
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OldCarBum (01-25-2018)
#31
Race Director
Honestly...if I may...I would not loose a lot of sleep over the thickness of these rubber stop bumpers. You can always cut one down if needed.
I am guessing that this new rubber stop is about 1/4" thick where it makes contact. Even with the brake pedal now being slightly down...the brakes will still preform if the system is bled correctly.
It might be that due to the original rubber bumper was missing and the brake pedal was coming back so far that it messed withe brake light switch....you got used to it not being correct.
DUB
I am guessing that this new rubber stop is about 1/4" thick where it makes contact. Even with the brake pedal now being slightly down...the brakes will still preform if the system is bled correctly.
It might be that due to the original rubber bumper was missing and the brake pedal was coming back so far that it messed withe brake light switch....you got used to it not being correct.
DUB
#32
Race Director
It's not a bad conversion, just takes time.
Get the 5 speed with a neutral safety switch built in. You can only use the starter in neutral. It's easier to wire and allows for a remote starter in the future,
The Silver Sport, SST 5 speed comes with the switch.
Get the 5 speed with a neutral safety switch built in. You can only use the starter in neutral. It's easier to wire and allows for a remote starter in the future,
The Silver Sport, SST 5 speed comes with the switch.