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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 06:04 PM
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Maybe a dumb question but...
I'm replacing my rear wheel bearings and need about .206 shim for .001 endplay
the thickest shim in the kit I bought is .149
Can I place two .103s together?

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Originally Posted by yyz1970
Maybe a dumb question but...
I'm replacing my rear wheel bearings and need about .206 shim for .001 endplay
the thickest shim in the kit I bought is .149
Can I place two .103s together?

Thanks for the help
HONESTLY...I have done countless rear wheel bearing set-ups and never had an issue where the space requires two shims. I am perplexed....something is not right somewhere. Either it is the manufacturer of your bearings and races...or it is the spacer is not correct. Possible machining of the lands of where the races go could be off also. Who knows.

BUT..to answer your question...when you stop and think about it....your are tightening the bearings together to 100 lbs/ft so that means that the shim(s) and spacer and bearings are all touching and tight against one another. So...even though I would not do it and find out what is wrong...I feel that you should be OK. The dynamics are the same...the only difference is that you are using two shims.

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I bought a Set up Tool from a popular vendor and found the new bearings wouldn't fit at all so I had to emery paper the tool to make the Timken bearings slide freely over the tool.
I'm hoping the Set up Tool is accurate

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Originally Posted by yyz1970
Maybe a dumb question but...
I'm replacing my rear wheel bearings and need about .206 shim for .001 endplay
the thickest shim in the kit I bought is .149
Can I place two .103s together?

Thanks for the help
I would think the races are not seated correctly there is no good reason for you to need that many shims I had the reverse problem I need to trim down a shim to 0.090 to work

If the originals didn't need that many their is no way the new bearings / races would need the extra
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Old Feb 18, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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I got my tool from Ecklers, bearings fit snug but would slide easily. I would mic. the old bearings and compare to the new just to make sure the bearings are ok. Also as an FYI , I found aftermarket shims that had a .002 difference measuring around it's perimeter. End play would never settle in the same when I spun the tool. I had to take a larger one that was true and mill it down to what I needed.

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Originally Posted by yyz1970
I bought a Set up Tool from a popular vendor and found the new bearings wouldn't fit at all so I had to emery paper the tool to make the Timken bearings slide freely over the tool.
I'm hoping the Set up Tool is accurate
What is the thickness of the big spacer ?
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What size of shim came out?
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I didn't have the races seated now one shim is good

thanks for the assistance
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Thanks for coming back and telling us the end of the problem. So many times people are helped out in a thread and it just ends without anyone knowing if their advice was correct or not.
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Originally Posted by yyz1970
I'm hoping the Set up Tool is accurate
All the set-up tool is doing is allowing you to set up the bearings ( DUH)...( sometimes what I wrote is kinda stupid and redundant)...so as long as the bearings slip onto the tool and you can check the run-out/end play....the tool is not the problem. it is only mimicking the spindle.

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Thanks for coming back and telling us the end of the problem. So many times people are helped out in a thread and it just ends without anyone knowing if their advice was correct or not.
I SECOND THAT!!!

GLAD he got it. I had a feeling something was not right.

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Originally Posted by yyz1970
I didn't have the races seated now one shim is good

thanks for the assistance
I am glad you found the problem. Its more fun when things come together like this.
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Where would I be without this forum?

Thanks again
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Where would I be without this forum?

Thanks again
The exact same place many of us were at ...BEFORE the internet. On the phone ..making phone calls...building your network of people you trust in helping you out that KNOW what you are trying to do. OH...it was FUN back then.

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