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Old Feb 21, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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Well I ran my wiper motor for the first time tonight. The original wiper motor that was on the car when I got it didn't work and was the wrong year anyway, so I changed it out for a rebuilt one.
Motor runs fine and all, however the big problem that I am having now is when the motor turns, the passenger side "arm" is hitting the back of the windshield wiper arm stop bracket. I have attached a very brief 2 second video showing it in action. Any Ideas?

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Hi Scott-

The only way for that to happen is for the lever from the transmission to the bell crank to be bent or the stop bracket is bent or the bell crank with pivot is bent..

It's kind of hard to tell since it only cycles one time in the video.

I have good used transmissions if you want one to test with email me at support@willcoxcorvette.com

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Hi Scott-

The only way for that to happen is for the lever from the transmission to the bell crank to be bent or the stop bracket is bent or the bell crank with pivot is bent..

It's kind of hard to tell since it only cycles one time in the video.

I have good used transmissions if you want one to test with email me at support@willcoxcorvette.com

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I have a video of it making a few revolutions I'm emailing you. I was limited to 4.77mb on the video I posted here. I really don't think anything is bent. When I got the rebuilt wiper motor I also got that piece that the transmission arms pivot on because the hole was wallered out.

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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi Scott,
Here are 2 pictures from my 71.
Both the wiper motor and wiper mechanism are the original.
Maybe you'll be able to spot something on your installation.
Is the wiper motor properly 'seated' on the firewall?…...is the nose extending into the wiper bay far enough?
???
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Alan,
Great pictures as always! I have seen many of yours while searching throughout the forum for answers before posting. Always so clean and clear.
The wiper motor looks good as compared to yours. I think the passenger side transmission linkage may be a little straighter on mine. Yours looks more curved and that may be my problem. Also when I look at your adjustment on the pivot for the transmission arm, it looks like yours is slid all the way over to the opposite side that mine is, leading me to believe that if I had more bend, my adjustment would look closer to yours.

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Originally Posted by Scott Marshall
II also got that piece that the transmission arms pivot on because the hole was wallered out.

Scott


You didn't tell me this...

And I think this is the problem Scott... 1968-1972 were different than 1973-1982. The rear ball for the right hand pivot arm is closer to the firewall and the length is different. I tried to watch the video again but I think the only way is to verify this is to post a picture...

I'll check and give you some measurements that should confirm this.

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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette

You didn't tell me this...

And this is the problem Scott... 1968-1972 were different than 1973-1982. The rear ball for the right hand pivot arm is closer to the firewall..

I'll check and give you some measurements that should confirm this.

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Sorry Ernie,
I thought I had mentioned that. Although I do think mine looks a lot like the one Alan posted. If the ball is jutting out further towards the windshield than it should that would make it hit. Looking forward to those measurements!

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There are three main differences... one you can check quick by the width.. the other is that the stud is 1/8" longer and also closer to the firewall due to the difference in the bend... I do believe this might be your issue. The passenger side rod comes very very close to the bracket on a car with everything correct.

Check it and see when you have time.. post back.
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Didn't know that.
I wonder what else changed that allowed the longer arm to miss the stop bracket....
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Didn't know that.
I wonder what else changed that allowed the longer arm to miss the stop bracket....
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The overall different is almost 1/4" due to a different bend in the arm.

I don't know what else is different, that's all I had time to investigate today. I have two NOS 68-72 arms, 1 used 73 and new one.. (I probably have more on cores).

My guess.. The change was the wiper stop bracket is probably different and they didn't have to worry about clearing the wiper door mechanism after 1972.

Alan you ever watch yours when it's running..... my arm gets very close to that bracket (probably 1/8" clearance).

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That is good to know!!!

THANKS Ernie-


Nice comparison- notice you have the stud t edge- but not center of stud to center of motor- If you could-I would like to know the "throw" difference.

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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
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I took mine off and measured it. It is the one that is narrower, and has the shorter ball stud. That leaves me to believe it is correct. I think it would have to be the lack of bend in the transmission arm at this point.




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Originally Posted by Scott Marshall
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I took mine off and measured it. It is the one that is narrower, and has the shorter ball stud. That leaves me to believe it is correct. I think it would have to be the lack of bend in the transmission arm at this point.





Well we are sure narrowing it down... lol

I knew it was the early one as soon as I saw your pic of the width.

So.. the only thing that leaves...

A) Bent Bracket (I don't think this is it)
B) Bent Transmission Lever. (Hard go imagine but possible). The lever is very strong but I wonder if possibly something didn't happen when the old lever got stripped of goofed up. The motor has enough torque to bend one that I do know.

Try tweaking the lever Scott, see if that helps. I've got a bin full of good used transmissions if you can't get it.

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Well, after removing the wiper transmission, applying a little heat to the bend with a torch, little pressure and refitting it fits perfectly. Didn't even really feel like I made much difference in the bend but it made all the difference in avoiding hitting that bracket. I now have about 3/16 of an inch clearance. thanks for all he help!
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