Another leaking brake caliper thread
With all that said, I had new front calipers installed in May of 2015. As I was installing new shocks a couple days ago, I came across the wonderfully leaking calipers seen in the pics below. I never drive my '72 vert in the rain (although I did get caught in a freak shower last summer) and I always park the car in my garage. I'm surprised that the calipers developed so much surface rust already, but I'm more pissed that they are leaking and it hasn't even been a full year!
To the best of my knowledge, the calipers have stainless steel sleeves, but I don't know if my brake lines are SS braided. I do not have power brakes. I drive the car from April through November and put about 1,000 miles a year on her. She's a cruiser, not a track car.
From what I've read, these calipers tend to leak after a few years, but less than a year is nuts. I've also read that aftermarket calipers from a local parts store may have a better warranty, but they don't last any longer. Personally, I don't care what caliper I install. I just want to go more than a year before dealing with this crap again. I also want to keep my stock wheel and tire set up.
I'll take whatever advice you guys have. Thanks.
Last edited by Logan176; Apr 23, 2016 at 08:55 AM.
With all that said, I had new front calipers installed in May of 2015. As I was installing new shocks a couple days ago, I came across the wonderfully leaking calipers seen in the pics below. I never drive my '72 vert in the rain (although I did get caught in a freak shower last summer) and I always park the car in my garage. I'm surprised that the calipers developed so much surface rust already, but I'm more pissed that they are leaking and it hasn't even been a full year!
To the best of my knowledge, the calipers have stainless steel sleeves, but I don't know if my brake lines are SS braided. I do not have power brakes. I drive the car from April through November and put about 1,000 miles a year on her. She's a cruiser, not a track car.
From what I've read, these calipers tend to leak after a few years, but less than a year is nuts. I've also read that aftermarket calipers from a local parts store may have a better warranty, but they don't last any longer. Personally, I don't care what caliper I install. I just want to go more than a year before dealing with this crap again. I also want to keep my stock wheel and tire set up.
I'll take whatever advice you guys have. Thanks.
1. the calipers are usually installed before 2005-2008
2. drive the car year round ( they dont sit for months on end)
3. usually lonestar brand and or rebuilt the existing units with new SS Sleeves and seals.
Those that fail where purchased new or rebuilds o-ring or lip seal within the past 3-4 years from corvette vendors, local parts shops etc. Tried to just replace seals on exisiting calipers ( partial rebuild) and sit in the winter months. Northern USA / Canada.
I fit in the after 2005-2008. Sits for months (Canada), Mine were lonestar (o-ring) first set were unknown (lip seal). The best I got was 4 years, and the worst was 5 months. They usually didn't all fail at the same time, the best I got was 2-3 years without a failure. But then I could have 1 every spring.
This is what I have now Wilwood D8-4 (these are a direct fit). As for will these do better, I don't know they have only been on the car since ~ aug 2015. They did make it through the storage period but I would like to see 10 years or more similar to the factory OEM calipers my car came with which lasted 14+ years before leaking / failure.
You will get a lot of responses all over the map that they don't have any problems very few will have more than 2-3 years since installed. (similar to your purchase date of calipers)
I believe there is a problem with the tolerence of the sleeves fitted and the quality of the seals being used. I think they all buy from the same suppliers and some may do a better job of checking tolerences but the seals come from the same supplier.
This is just my experience. But I did search for Wilwood D8-4 leak problems. Not much posted on the same problem.
The only problem with wilwood D8-4 is the brake bleeding of the rear calipers. The first time you need to bleed them sitting vertical and off the car.
Last edited by cagotzmann; Apr 23, 2016 at 09:53 AM.
1. the calipers are usually installed before 2005-2008
2. drive the car year round ( they dont sit for months on end)
3. usually lonestar brand and or rebuilt the existing units with new SS Sleeves and seals.
Those that fail where purchased new or rebuilds o-ring or lip seal within the past 3-4 years from corvette vendors, local parts shops etc. Tried to just replace seals on exisiting calipers ( partial rebuild) and sit in the winter months. Northern USA / Canada.
I fit in the after 2005-2008. Sits for months (Canada), Mine were lonestar (o-ring) first set were unknown (lip seal). The best I got was 4 years, and the worst was 5 months. They usually didn't all fail at the same time, the best I got was 2-3 years without a failure. But then I could have 1 every spring.
This is what I have now Wilwood D8-4 (these are a direct fit). As for will these do better, I don't know they have only been on the car since ~ aug 2015. They did make it through the storage period but I would like to see 10 years or more similar to the factory OEM calipers my car came with which lasted 14+ years before leaking / failure.
You will get a lot of responses all over the map that they don't have any problems very few will have more than 2-3 years since installed. (similar to your purchase date of calipers)
I believe there is a problem with the tolerence of the sleeves fitted and the quality of the seals being used. I think they all buy from the same suppliers and some may do a better job of checking tolerences but the seals come from the same supplier.
This is just my experience. But I did search for Wilwood D8-4 leak problems. Not much posted on the same problem.
The only problem with wilwood D8-4 is the brake bleeding of the rear calipers. The first time you need to bleed them sitting vertical and off the car.
1. the calipers are usually installed before 2005-2008
2. drive the car year round ( they dont sit for months on end)
3. usually lonestar brand and or rebuilt the existing units with new SS Sleeves and seals.
Those that fail where purchased new or rebuilds o-ring or lip seal within the past 3-4 years from corvette vendors, local parts shops etc. Tried to just replace seals on exisiting calipers ( partial rebuild) and sit in the winter months. Northern USA / Canada.
I fit in the after 2005-2008. Sits for months (Canada), Mine were lonestar (o-ring) first set were unknown (lip seal). The best I got was 4 years, and the worst was 5 months. They usually didn't all fail at the same time, the best I got was 2-3 years without a failure. But then I could have 1 every spring.
This is what I have now Wilwood D8-4 (these are a direct fit). As for will these do better, I don't know they have only been on the car since ~ aug 2015. They did make it through the storage period but I would like to see 10 years or more similar to the factory OEM calipers my car came with which lasted 14+ years before leaking / failure.
You will get a lot of responses all over the map that they don't have any problems very few will have more than 2-3 years since installed. (similar to your purchase date of calipers)
I believe there is a problem with the tolerence of the sleeves fitted and the quality of the seals being used. I think they all buy from the same suppliers and some may do a better job of checking tolerences but the seals come from the same supplier.
This is just my experience. But I did search for Wilwood D8-4 leak problems. Not much posted on the same problem.
The only problem with wilwood D8-4 is the brake bleeding of the rear calipers. The first time you need to bleed them sitting vertical and off the car.
Those look pretty dry to me in the picture, and the discoloration just looks like staining from the original bleeding process.
Those look pretty dry to me in the picture, and the discoloration just looks like staining from the original bleeding process.
From VBandP Website
"Limited lifetime warranty." Mid America also had this warranty posted and since have removed the claim. The warranty only covered leaks between the SS sleeve and the caliper housing. Very misleading until you make a claim and get denied warranty. ( My experience with Mid America).
I would ask VBandP what the warranty covers ?
Also
"This is the ONLY caliper with a 4 Micron finished sleeve for great performance " ( their rebuilds )
I wish I had purchased their brand in 2005 to see if my situation would be different now.
Those look pretty dry to me in the picture, and the discoloration just looks like staining from the original bleeding process.

That looks like very minor seepage if it's not simply a little oil left from installation. If there was a drop of fluid hanging from the bottom of the caliper I would be concerned.
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Could be that some residue has cause a bit of rust on those calipers...which is why I paint mine, lol.
I have pulled calipers apart on cars that I have purchased to find they already had been sleeved with stainless steel. Put in some new rubber, and they were good to go.
I also buy my rebuild kits from Vette Brakes.
I have even seen the little O ring go bad that seals the fluid passage between the two halves of a caliper.
In the OPs case if the pedal feels normal, and nothing is on the pads, I would just drive it.
Sooner or later those suckers are going to start leaking again and I'm not looking forward to removing that bolt. Thanks for the help.
Last edited by Logan176; Apr 24, 2016 at 08:08 PM.
Sooner or later those suckers are going to start leaking again and I'm not looking forward to removing that bolt. Thanks for the help.
But after a cleanup it will be easy to see.















