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Old May 4, 2016 | 02:03 PM
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I think I have a accurate readings for both wet and dry compressions on 1974 454 that is around 461 now. Compression ratio is now 10:1
It has about 10K miles on a mild performance rebuild.

cyl 1 dry 152 wet 162
2 148 156
3 155 162
4 155 162
5 142 160
6 155 163
7 140 160
8 152 162

Plugs 2, 5, 7 have fouling plug 8 runs leanish
I notice a puff of blackish smoke sometimes on startup but nothing otherwise. Thanks


Looks like some ring wear to me but I'm not
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Results are ok-ish but certainly not good. You just sneak under a 10% variation dry.

A leak-down test would be helpful.

All your readings are low, btw. Are you sure you have 10:1 CR? My 454 is 10.15:1 and my dry cranking compression is just over 200 PSI.
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Results are ok-ish but certainly not good. You just sneak under a 10% variation dry.

A leak-down test would be helpful.

All your readings are low, btw. Are you sure you have 10:1 CR? My 454 is 10.15:1 and my dry cranking compression is just over 200 PSI.
I think the lower compression has mostly to do with the altitude here in Denver. I checked it at 1000 ft a little over a year ago and was around 195 on a wet test. We are at at least 5500ft here and it feels like it has lost about that comparative amount in HP for that reason.

Also using a good stiff connecting hose vs a flimsy one makes a big difference in the numbers I notice (and the quality of gage).

So getting close to tear it down time I gather. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by CiCiC3
I think the lower compression has mostly to do with the altitude here in Denver. I checked it at 1000 ft a little over a year ago and was around 195 on a wet test. We are at at least 5500ft here and it feels like it has lost about that comparative amount in HP for that reason.

Also using a good stiff connecting hose vs a flimsy one makes a big difference in the numbers I notice (and the quality of gage).

So getting close to tear it down time I gather. Thanks!
Yes, being at Denver altitude will significantly impact your compression readings. It may also make the differential pressures look worse than they are.
I would say your engine is fine.
Puff of smoke is valve guide seals if it's more blueish rather than black.
Black would indicate a rich condition, which makes sense if you moved to Denver and never re-jetted the carb.
Would also explain fouling of the plugs if you are running at same rich jetting from a lower altitude.
Get the jetting squared away and you'll get lots of that lost power back.
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was the engine hot and throttle wide open with all the plugs removed when you did the test?
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was the engine hot and throttle wide open with all the plugs removed when you did the test?
No I disconnected the fuel lines but the engine was cold with all plugs removed. Wet test was with a teaspoon of oil inserted. A hot engine would increase comp?
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Yes, being at Denver altitude will significantly impact your compression readings. It may also make the differential pressures look worse than they are.
I would say your engine is fine.
Puff of smoke is valve guide seals if it's more blueish rather than black.
Black would indicate a rich condition, which makes sense if you moved to Denver and never re-jetted the carb.
Would also explain fouling of the plugs if you are running at same rich jetting from a lower altitude.
Get the jetting squared away and you'll get lots of that lost power back.
Yes it was running rich, I did jet it down finally, it is much better all around and has some better zip to it now. thanks
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Originally Posted by CiCiC3
No I disconnected the fuel lines but the engine was cold with all plugs removed. Wet test was with a teaspoon of oil inserted. A hot engine would increase comp?
If the Throttle is not wide open the compression will be way low. No need to disconnect fuel lines.
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Originally Posted by Gale Banks 80'
If the Throttle is not wide open the compression will be way low. No need to disconnect fuel lines.
I have done it both ways and there is no significant difference in the compression reading with throttle open or closed, at least at my altitude of 4000 feet. After all it's only turning at starter speed and you are only drawing air with one cylinder at that speed with all the plugs out on the rest of the cylinders.

I've also tested cold and hot. Hot results in slightly higher numbers but with burned fingers and or wrists.

I now always just do cold each time, and use that as a base number. If it's marginal then hot may provide a better number.

Also a good idea to use a charger on the battery when comp testing to keep the voltage up on the battery for more consistent starter speeds.

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