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Old May 14, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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Trying to track down an electrical gremlin and could use some help. I have a 1969 L-46, manual transmission (coupe).
While driving, the car will just go completely dead. No lights, no engine, just completely dead. Disconnect the battery, wait a couple of minutes, reconnect it and it will fire right up. No evidence of a drained battery, which seems to also eliminate an alternator problem. I've checked, cleaned and reconnected the battery cables to the battery terminal posts, the battery to frame ground, the ground from the block to the frame and the connections from the battery to the starter.

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Old May 14, 2016 | 11:34 PM
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After thinking the car is running on Windows, as a reboot fixes it with no explanation...

The only thing I see you are doing is moving wires. When it happens, I would leave the key on, turn the radio all the way up, and try moving the wires, near the starter first. You might have a bad wire inside the insulation, gets hot and separates, cools and you move wires, and it touches again.

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Old May 14, 2016 | 11:44 PM
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Check your fuse links at the horn relay and then the starter
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Old May 15, 2016 | 01:18 AM
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You may have a shorted cell in the battery, it can be intermittent. Sometimes you can smell rotten eggs/sulfur near the battery? If you do, time to replace.

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Started it up this morning without issue. Disconnected the positive cable from the battery. Car kept running and lights stayed on.

Seems like this eliminates an issue with the battery, or battery cable.

Also seems like the alternator is doing its job.

Looks like the electrical distribution goes from the battery to the starter and then branches off from there. Starter cranks fine, but I wonder if something has gone wrong internally causing complete power failure?
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Old May 15, 2016 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave J
Check your fuse links at the horn relay and then the starter
The one by the starter feels pretty firm, so I don't think that's it. Plus, I'm able to get it started. I assume that if the fusible link goes, it would stay dead.
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I assume that if the fusible link goes, it would stay dead.
Not necessarily. Years ago my '70 Coupe died on the hwy at speed. After scratching my head and checking what I could check, I started walking to the exit I could see in the distance. Before I left the car, I turned on the hazards, with no results. I must have forgot to turn them off, because when I turned around to look at the car, the hazards were blinking!

Make a long story short, the fused link at the horn relay fried. The 2 sections of wire were still close however, and must have made contact to supply power again. Just because an old link fails doesn't mean it kills the circuit when re-connected.

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Old May 15, 2016 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave J
Check your fuse links at the horn relay and then the starter

Have exact same model,had same problem,was fusible link at starter.
Never tried battery disconnect and restart though.
Was able to jump with screwdriver at starter before fix
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How about the ignition switch? They can go over time, and an intermittent problem could cause your symptoms.
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