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Old May 17, 2016 | 11:15 PM
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I installed a new washer pump on my 74 and it's not pumping although wipers are working great!First thing I did before installing it was to check motor to make sure low speed worked, High speed worked and also to park itself on off.First question is, The two wires that connect to the front of pump (butt connectors)have power when connected to pump without the wiper motor running. When I disconnect them from the pump and test for power again, only one has power. Is this normal?also I tried to align the pump cam as close as possible and I think it's right on target but not 100% sure cause I believe the shaft that engages to the cam shifts out when motor is activated to engage on cam. also does pump need to be primed? the prong on the screw for the pump is also connected to the black ground wire. I checked for ground and motor and pump seem to get ground from here.

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Old May 18, 2016 | 01:01 AM
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maybe it's the switch itself that needs to be replaced?
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Old May 18, 2016 | 05:12 AM
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maybe it's the switch itself that needs to be replaced?
True! although it's new, but new parts turn out defective sometimes. wiring too is new.
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Old May 18, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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Sounds like you may have the ground hooked up to the wrong prong. I'm not familiar with what plugs are on the pump, but you mentioned having power to two prongs when wire connected and only one when disconnected. That would indicate to me that the power is passing through the motor winding and then to the other wire, hence the reason for power on both when connected.
You need power to pass through the motor winding to ground via the activation switch for it to run.
If you accidentally connect power to ground without passing through the motor, you should be blowing a fuse.
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Old May 18, 2016 | 08:58 AM
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Sounds like you may have the ground hooked up to the wrong prong. I'm not familiar with what plugs are on the pump, but you mentioned having power to two prongs when wire connected and only one when disconnected. That would indicate to me that the power is passing through the motor winding and then to the other wire, hence the reason for power on both when connected.
You need power to pass through the motor winding to ground via the activation switch for it to run.
If you accidentally connect power to ground without passing through the motor, you should be blowing a fuse.
I have the only single black wire coming from the harness connected to the individual prong that has a screw on the bottom side of the pump. This screw also grabs and grounds the wiper motor. The main thing that has me confused is the yellow and blue wires that connect to the pump. When connected both wires are powered. When disconnected only the yellow has power.
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Hi rc,
"also does pump need to be primed? "
Yes, the pump often needs to be primed to get it started from dry… but even if it's not primed you should hear it operating… it makes a pretty distinctive sound.
Good Luck!
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Hi rc,
"also does pump need to be primed? "
Yes, the pump often needs to be primed to get it started from dry… but even if it's not primed you should hear it operating… it makes a pretty distinctive sound.
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The pump has to be primed to work and you do this by sucking some water into your mouth and blowing it into the middle nipple on the pump.

If the pump isn't engaging check power and ground on the two wires, the pump is hot waiting for ground and so the yellow power wire should have power and the dark blue will only be grounded when the wiper switch is pushed inward.

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The pump has to be primed to work and you do this by sucking some water into your mouth and blowing it into the middle nipple on the pump.

If the pump isn't engaging check power and ground on the two wires, the pump is hot waiting for ground and so the yellow power wire should have power and the dark blue will only be grounded when the wiper switch is pushed inward.

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Thanks!! This is where I'm at now. The switch was lacking ground, so I added temporary ground directly from battery. I now have ground on blue wire at washer pump when Switch is pressed in but the pump does not engage. also the yellow is powered. I manually activated the pump by pushing the small clip by the pump coil. It does a complete cycle. If i keep the switch pressed it stays pumping until I deactivate ground. question, Is the pump defective? That's the only thing i can come up with at this point but want to make sure.Question #2 is it possible that the wiper motor needs more ground than the one black wire from the harness that plugs into the spade on the outside of the pump? the screw that holds that spade is making contact with the motor when tightened to spade. Question #3 are electrical parts like these returnable?

....Thanks!!

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The pump should make one cycle when the electromagnet is activated. If you run power and ground direct to the pump you should hear the electromagnet click and pull the small lever upward and then the wiper motor takes over the pumping action of the washer pump. If you direct power and ground the pump and the electromagnet engages then the washer pump electrical portion is working fine.

The single ground is enough as long as the ground is a good one. The ground for the motor is also shared with the heater blower motor.

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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
The pump should make one cycle when the electromagnet is activated. If you run power and ground direct to the pump you should hear the electromagnet click and pull the small lever upward and then the wiper motor takes over the pumping action of the washer pump. If you direct power and ground the pump and the electromagnet engages then the washer pump electrical portion is working fine.

The single ground is enough as long as the ground is a good one. The ground for the motor is also shared with the heater blower motor.

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Thank you so much for the help. I guess the pump is defective because yes,I directly connected power and ground to the pump and the electromagnet will not engage... thanks again!!
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Originally Posted by redcruz1120
Thank you so much for the help. I guess the pump is defective because yes,I directly connected power and ground to the pump and the electromagnet will not engage... thanks again!!
Did you get the pump from us? If so email me the order number to support@Willcoxcorvette.com

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Did you get the pump from us? If so email me the order number to support@Willcoxcorvette.com

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No I did not. but I will start buying from you guys soon. I like the help and customer service you provide!!

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No I did not. but I will start buying from you guys soon. I like the help and customer service you provide!!

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