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Old Jul 2, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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I am having an issue where the front passenger side is lower than the driver. I put the car up on the lift and took some measurements today. While doing so I noticed the sway bar up front as favoring the Driver Side. Would this cause the car to tip to the passenger side or is this more likely a side effect from something else causing it to dip? Should I just loosen the bolts and try to re align it or replace the sway bar?

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Yes, would say you are on to something.

Just looking at the angle of the bushing you don't have a balanced suspension. I'd start there, loosen and line up the geometry and I bet you fix a lot.

BTW... double check the tire inflation as you can see a difference if they are way off from each other. Also check your rear suspension for similar issues as the rear will push/pull weight on your front and vice versa.

When the car is on the ground with a full weighed load, how much is the difference?

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As in something is geometrically off or a spring has weakened? What is the best way to tackle all of this? Should I loosen up all the bolts that basically hold the front suspension?

Tires check good and equal on inflation, difference is about an inch closer in clearence from the top of the tire to the fender well on passenger side while driver side is inch higher.

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distance from sway bar connection on lower driver side a-arm to tire
distance from sway bar connection on lower passenger side a-arm to tire

9" ground clearance on driver side
+8" ground clearance on passenger side

3" from top of passenger side lower trailing a-arm to bottom of frame
4" from top of driver side lower trailing a-arm to bottom of frame
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Are the bottom ends of the coil springs against the "stops" in the lower control arms? This will cause the front end to "lean".
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Are the bottom ends of the coil springs against the "stops" in the lower control arms? This will cause the front end to "lean".
I believe so, because they should be correct? I will check tomorrow morning to make sure. You're talking about the end of the coil spring being in the little divot of the a-arm sitting in that pocket right?
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I'd start with losening the sway bar bolts (all of them) moving them into a balanced position and re tighten.
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Springs are in their "stops" and sway bar has been centered. Still seeing the lean.
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Just adding this. I was fighting an uneven suspension for some time. The situation was this : front right was high, left rear was low, front left was low, right rear was high.

I found out that it had to do with the height of the front stabiliser bar where it sits on the frame. I shortened the stabiliser link (the tube) of the left front so that the bar would compress the spring a bit. Now the car is even all around.

PS : before you ask : yes the frame was checked before a body off resto.

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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
Just adding this. I was fighting an uneven suspension for some time. The situation was this : front right was high, left rear was low, front left was low, right rear was high.

I found out that it had to do with the height of the front stabiliser bar where it sits on the frame. I shortened the stabiliser link (the tube) of the left front so that the bar would compress the spring a bit. Now the car is even all around.

PS : before you ask : yes the frame was checked before a body off resto.
Alright I'm going to go on the theory that the bar has been bent, I think I will just order a new bar and bushings, install and align and see what I have after that.
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Undo both links and see if it changes......
I would put urethane link in anyhoo....as they are a dirt cheap upgrade.

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If the car is leaning (sway bar centered and springs in the stops)... It could be springs, it could be a bent frame, or you could have a body mount issue. I'd start by taking measurements in the same points from both sides. I'd also look for spacer blocks in the springs... when springs get weak people will buy those spacer blocks to stiffen them up... if someone did this and one fell out that might account for you lean as well.

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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
If the car is leaning (sway bar centered and springs in the stops)... It could be springs, it could be a bent frame, or you could have a body mount issue. I'd start by taking measurements in the same points from both sides. I'd also look for spacer blocks in the springs... when springs get weak people will buy those spacer blocks to stiffen them up... if someone did this and one fell out that might account for you lean as well.

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I know the springs are at least the same setup(they could still be dis-similiar in force/length though) because I replaced the whole front end suspension with a kit from you willcox about 8 years ago.

Willcox, I want to replace my stock sway bar with the 1 1/4 inch sway bar but I only see rubber grommets as an option, do you have a poly option with that kit?
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let me check, I'm of town and he internet here is horrible... I'll post back, I'm switching hotels tomorrow morning.
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I would rethink using poly for your bushings. I just replaced poly in my 66 after a few short years. They turned to glass and fell out. I had to do the same with my trailing arm bushings . Jerry
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I would tackle this with the most simple first - tire air pressure first then sway bar bushings/links second. Third is check for bent sway bar - this can throw off the level of the car A LOT. Then check for opposite rear corner causing the problem.
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I would tackle this with the most simple first - tire air pressure first then sway bar bushings/links second. Third is check for bent sway bar - this can throw off the level of the car A LOT. Then check for opposite rear corner causing the problem.
Air pressure good, going to replace the sway bar and bushings then re-attack.
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Originally Posted by Belgian1979vette
Just adding this. I was fighting an uneven suspension for some time. The situation was this : front right was high, left rear was low, front left was low, right rear was high.

I found out that it had to do with the height of the front stabiliser bar where it sits on the frame. I shortened the stabiliser link (the tube) of the left front so that the bar would compress the spring a bit. Now the car is even all around.

PS : before you ask : yes the frame was checked before a body off resto.
Yep,did this and it works well
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Originally Posted by pleasants9
I know the springs are at least the same setup(they could still be dis-similiar in force/length though) because I replaced the whole front end suspension with a kit from you willcox about 8 years ago.

Willcox, I want to replace my stock sway bar with the 1 1/4 inch sway bar but I only see rubber grommets as an option, do you have a poly option with that kit?
I won't run or install Poly in my shop... just a FYI. But I can't find a supplier for the 1 1/4 bushing by itself. I see a Bar that can be purchased that size, but they don't sell the bushings separately. I'll keep checking.
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