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Old Jul 13, 2016 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Danish Shark
I always liked the Ford sound a lot better than the Chevy
Funny, most of my buds (and me) do not like the "different" sound of the LS firing order
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gkull
I had a 7200 rpm very streetable 355 ci for many years with an auto tranny. You have to remember that the original C-5 Z-06 had 405 hp and a 7000 red line.

I've since changed to bigger motors with altered firing orders and a 5 speed. Manual transmissions are very forgiving of more radical cams.

I looked long and hard at the 4 pattern cam, but when it came to having my solid roller with lobes out of the lobe profile pages and the request for an altered firing order the comp cam guys choked and then they even shipped me a custom billet cam without the agreed upon sleeved on dizzy gear. So I almost got a 4 pattern.

I would tend to go with something more than a 1800-5800 rpm grind with a 4 speed and I would ask about a 4-7 firing order swap. All you have to do is change the plug wire firing order on the cap
Ok, so as I undersand from you and Chris, then it is not needed, a good cam with 4/7 swap is almost as good.

And that is good, that is what I have in my SBC 427 :- )
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bluedawg
If you were going to flow the top end as a unit, wouldn't you want grind a camshaft so that all cylinders received the same amount of fuel, in essence having an 8 pattern cam not counting the exhaust, i know it would be a lot of work and a pain, but if you were trying to squeeze the orange dry, having all cylinders perform at the same level would help and it would make sense toward reving higher given each cylinder produces the same exact amount of power and you wouldn't have part of the cylinders doing the spinning and the other half trying to catch up.I'm probably over thinking it.
For a street guy the above for the labor involved your looking at around $1000 to get the data then the cost of the camshaft which is around $1200 to $1500 for multi lobes on 1 stick.

Now for a guy that is running a class and it has engine limitations then yes it is money well spent. Most street guys won't spend $3000 for 8 to 12HP.....others will and have too.
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 09:37 AM
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It has been my understanding different ports that are different in length give a broader powerband rather than making them all equal for example different length injector stacks way back;could change the powerband making it narrower or broader perhaps wording is wrong here.
Street vs track only 2 different goals.
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Originally Posted by StraubTech
For a street guy the above for the labor involved your looking at around $1000 to get the data then the cost of the camshaft which is around $1200 to $1500 for multi lobes on 1 stick.

Now for a guy that is running a class and it has engine limitations then yes it is money well spent. Most street guys won't spend $3000 for 8 to 12HP.....others will and have too.
Yes I agree, it was on the theory behind it, I was looking for.
And as I understand it, it works, especially in race cars, and it is very expensive.

Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
It has been my understanding different ports that are different in length give a broader powerband rather than making them all equal for example different length injector stacks way back;could change the powerband making it narrower or broader perhaps wording is wrong here.
Street vs track only 2 different goals.
X 2

Thx all
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 01:04 AM
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Gimmick! How it was explained on another forum awhile back was, if your evening out air/fuel, why do you need different exhaust lobes? They should all be the same now right?
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Old Jul 15, 2016 | 01:24 AM
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Gimmick! How it was explained on another forum awhile back was, if your evening out air/fuel, why do you need different exhaust lobes? They should all be the same now right?
Good point. Hadn't thought about that.
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