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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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I have closely followed the posts of others interested in adding power steering to their C3's. Big blocks with headers seem to pose a problem with the Steeroids system. Personally, I just don't like hanging more hardware at or below the front of the frame. I have also never been impressed with the original horizontal hydraulic ram system of the stock design.

The Corvette Steering system uses a Saginaw box like those on many other cars not using a hydraulic ram. The mounting bracket to the frame has been the problem for others in retrofitting these to our C3's. Corvette Steering has made the adaptation. I will be using the new and very small power steering pump as found on new GM cars like my ZO6. The owner, Tom, measured the unit and found it to be virtually the same as the manual box regarding the distance from the frame's mounting plane to the point closest to the engine. I don't want to have to dimple my headers to make it fit!

With brackets, pump, steering box, hoses, pitman arm, etc. it should be $200-$300 less than the Steeroids setup.

I am looking forward to its arrival. I now have quite a "to do" list when I start into the car again!

Roller Cam
hardened yokes
main rear spring replacement
Bilstein shocks
fuel pump
McLeod clutch & flywheel
Power Steering

Should take me all morning once I finish breakfast!

Chuck
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 09:20 PM
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Default Re: Steeroids Power Steering Alternative (Chuck Harmon)

Keep us posted. Looks like an easy fit and a lot less hardware. Should fit a small block real easy.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....

Looks like I'll be learning a lot, eh Chuck?

No matter how much you wanna throw at me, I'm still game to get dirty and learn. I may not be much help on the mechanical end, but I am good at taking pictures and lifting things. :)

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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh....

Looks like I'll be learning a lot, eh Chuck?


-Steve
As far as I'm concerned Bench Racing doesn't get much better than a couple of guys bolting up some new parts, each part promising at least 20% increase in horse power, JC Whitney style. I will be sure to recalculate the horse power increases on a compounding basis. :D

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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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Any one looked at using a MR2 electric PS pump in this application? Was just told last week that this was the only electric PS pump out there. Are ther others? Also saw a 66 Buick (401 ci bored to 470ci) a friend has build that uses a th400 with a Ford OD. I have not had a chance to talk to the builder (Who uses the same combo behind a 500+ hp ford 460) but it is in the car and hopefully I will have pictures and tech details later if anyone is interested.

Also saw a 66 BB Vette on the NCRS road tour that uses a late model Z28 six speed behind a earlier 427. Some guy in Tx has an adapter that allows use of the Camero trans with the hyd clutch setup. He is supposed to give me the details on that setup too. Will post info when I get it.(He got the trans for $500 as it was a warrenty pull out which was solved with a grinder, would not go into reverse as the lever hit the case)


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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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Thanks for the info, I will definitely bookmark this site. :cheers:
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Steeroids Power Steering Alternative (Chuck Harmon)

Of course, the longer my car is around your car, it may gain a fighting aura of its own, which will increase "at the limit" power by up to 25%.

In addition, my gaining a working understanding of how the system works will increase my driving ability by 20%, thus increasing power output by 75%.

Add 4d12 HP.

Sorry, AD&D rules to mechanical skills. ;)

Maybe you'll even let me drive the 69, just to see how the new steering feels. ;)

-Steve (You never know, Chuck, you may just get me to bolt one of those fancy steering boxes on my car too...)


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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 11:07 PM
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Chuck, You are going to put p/s on your L88?? :eek:
Oh, the humanity!! :)

What's next, AIR CONDITIONING ??? AM/FM radio perhaps? :lol:

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http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1724
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Default Re: Steeroids Power Steering Alternative (Chuck Harmon)

Chuck,
I am so happy you purchased and are installing this system. I too like this better than the steeroids and have been contemplating this system for a while. One thing I have noticed is that most big blocks have more room between the steering box and the headers as the big block headers seem to really hug the block in that area while the small block headers really stick out a bit. It seemed to me that the hooker side pipe headers had a lot of room for this system. I have the small block and spoke with the owner at Corvette Steering and he didnt seem to think this system would fit, but I am jonesing to upgrade my steering so bad that I just HAVE to see it!

I am hoping that you are desperately in need of some help and I can come over with my crescent wrench ;) and help you install it! Email is on the way so we can take the small talk off line. I think this system is going to rock and am looking forward to your reports on it.

Cheers
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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If there is anybody in Michigan who is making this same installation, I would be interested in coming over to see it. I'm sure Dave DeCarter (our esteemed moderator) is probably interested as well.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Steeroids Power Steering Alternative (MNJack)

Chuck, You are going to put p/s on your L88?? :eek:
Oh, the humanity!! :)

What's next, AIR CONDITIONING ??? AM/FM radio perhaps? :lol:

MJ
MNJack,

Already wasted bucks on the Autocustom Stereo. The unit isn't very impressive in the first place; and, in the second place, the exhaust is too loud to hear it anyway. But Vintage Air, hmmm, maybe I should look into one for next month! Been thinking about adding heated seats too! In the winter it can sometimes get down to the 40's in my garage. Life can really be tough! :lol:

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 01:23 AM
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Chris,

The BB has less room with the Hooker side pipe headers than when I had the small block with the Hooker side pipes. Currently it is about 1/16th" between #3 and the gear box. Per Tom's measurements at Corvette Steering, this should remain the same with his unit. I use up this 1/16th" with header wrap to try to keep things a little cooler for the box. Hopefully the Jet Hot coating helps a little too.

Be happy to have you over to check it out.

Chuck

Quote: "I am hoping that you are desperately in need of some help and I can come over with my crescent wrench and help you install it! Chris"

p.s. The last Corvette guy from Fremont took my wrench. It would be refreshing to have a Fremont guy bring one!

p.p.s. First Fremont guy has since returned said wrench; but, I am bummed that I can't give him a hard time about it anymore. Yet I can still pull his chain a little bit with this perfect opportunity :jester


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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Steeroids Power Steering Alternative (Jim Shea)

If there is anybody in Michigan who is making this same installation, I would be interested in coming over to see it. I'm sure Dave DeCarter (our esteemed moderator) is probably interested as well.
I was waiting for you to chime in Jim. I'd be interested ion going to see the install, but maybe not all the way to California :eek: Hmmm...on second thought, maybe we could make a road trip to CA in about 4 months from now to see it :D

I'm REALLY interested in seeing how they managed to work that bracket in there without shifting everything way to the right.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 11:53 AM
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keep us posted cause I want this really really bad!
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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Dave/Jim

You guys buy it and we can try it on my car. :jester Maybe we can get a MI group discount. Would like to know what they are using and how they modified it to fit our application plus any long term testimonials.
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