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I have a 1979 Vette which I have had for the last 30 years. I started redoing the entire suspension and body mounts. I noticed my vette did not have a rear stablizer bar, was the stablizer bar an option on the 1979. Figured I probably should add, any thoughts are appreciated.
thanks
My '79 didnt have a rear sway bar. I installed one when I installed a suspension kit. The nuts for the mounts were there once I picked away at the undercoating
From what I have read the rear stabiliser bar was fitted to the big block C3's and is not necessary for road use for the small block cars. I'm sure a tech guru will chime in if I'm incorrect!
Early C3's had 9/16 rear stabilizer bars (Big blocks & gymkhana suspension) and later had 7/16 (sbc with gymkhana option). If you are going to install, suggest a stock style with moveable links between bar and rear arms rather than the aftermarket variety. Do searches under C3 parts section - several are for sale.
All the BB cars had a 9/16 rear bar (for obvious reason...the BB C3 are much more nose heavy than the SBC and will inherently understeer without a rear bar to counteract that tendency) and only the SB C3's with a the gymkhana sport suspension had a 7/16 inch rear bar (the majoirity of the SBC C3's do NOT have the sport suspension and thus no rear bar). The easiest way to eye a SBC C3 with the sport suspension is to peak in the rear wheel well and look for the rear sway bar. OEM GM rear sway bar, then most likely the car came from the factory with the gymkhana sport suspension...rare though. I would strongly discourage putting a rear bar on a base suspension C3 without matching the front and rear bars (my 78 1 1/8 inch front bar with sport springs front/rear 7 leaf steel spring or 360 composite and 7/16 inch GM style only rear bar). Do not use aftermarket rear bars that are NOT the GM style sway bar which were intentionally used by GM when the car suspension was designed for a very good reason....they restrict the rear trailing arm proper movement.....
I'm in a little disagreement on the OEM and Aftermarket sway bars. If you buy crap you get crappy results. Both my front and rear bars have spring end links. So they are adjustable. Adjustability is so nice because you can use a bigger dia. stiff bar and set it to not come into play until you have a larger amount of wheel compression. So it is like NO sway bar for typical driving and then at high lean angles it helps. Far superior to factory setups.
I'm in a little disagreement on the OEM and Aftermarket sway bars. If you buy crap you get crappy results. Both my front and rear bars have spring end links. So they are adjustable. Adjustability is so nice because you can use a bigger dia. stiff bar and set it to not come into play until you have a larger amount of wheel compression. So it is like NO sway bar for typical driving and then at high lean angles it helps. Far superior to factory setups.
Fair enough! I am talking about a using a stock GM type sway bar...I can't comment on any other rear sway bars that use an adjustable endlink.....In theory, though, that sounds like it would solve the issue of non GM style sway bars causing rear trailing arm binding.
Fair enough! I am talking about a using a stock GM type sway bar...I can't comment on any other rear sway bars that use an adjustable endlink.....In theory, though, that sounds like it would solve the issue of non GM style sway bars causing rear trailing arm binding.
Thank you all. I bought suspension kit which included rear sway bar from Ecklers. Guess I will have to get the hardware to attach the sway bar, anyone have suggestions.
...I bought suspension kit which included rear sway bar from Ecklers. Guess I will have to get the hardware to attach the sway bar, anyone have suggestions...
I would think the Eckler's kit would include mountings for the bars.
Fair enough! I am talking about a using a stock GM type sway bar...I can't comment on any other rear sway bars that use an adjustable endlink.....In theory, though, that sounds like it would solve the issue of non GM style sway bars causing rear trailing arm binding.
Oh I know adjustable end links have been around forever but never really thought if they would solve the inherent issues with aftermarket rear sway bars on C3's and the reason GM used a very different endlink on the rear bars of the C3 from any of their other cars with rear bars...
In '79 you only got the rear stabilizer bar with the Gymkhana (RPO F37) "Heavy Duty Suspension" option.
In addition to the rear stabilizer bar such included a significantly heavier front stabilizer bar, stronger front coil springs, stronger rear leaf spring and "heavy duty" shock absorbers.
In no way a suspension expert I will say however that there must be a reason that all the factory suspension system upgrades I know of always affect all four corners. Simply adding a single component without at least similar upgrades to the full original system may not produce any benefit and may even degrade performance.
In '79 you only got the rear stabilizer bar with the Gymkhana (RPO F37) "Heavy Duty Suspension" option.
In addition to the rear stabilizer bar such included a significantly heavier front stabilizer bar, stronger front coil springs, stronger rear leaf spring and "heavy duty" shock absorbers.
In no way a suspension expert I will say however that there must be a reason that all the factory suspension system upgrades I know of always affect all four corners. Simply adding a single component without at least similar upgrades to the full original system may not produce any benefit and may even degrade performance.
I bought the whole Eckler kit, which included front and rear sway bars, shocks, front and rear springs. So I guess i need to get the hardware to attach the rear sway bar
Is it the street and slalom kit? I bought that kit for my '79 and it came with the hardware needed to attach the rear sway bar. Just needed to find the nuts in the frame through the undercoating, really wasn't a big deal.
Is it the street and slalom kit? I bought that kit for my '79 and it came with the hardware needed to attach the rear sway bar. Just needed to find the nuts in the frame through the undercoating, really wasn't a big deal.
Boy do I feel like an idiot, I found the hardware kit in the bottom of the rear sway bar box. Thanks for making me aware.
Boy do I feel like an idiot, I found the hardware kit in the bottom of the rear sway bar box. Thanks for making me aware.
Don't feel bad, I'm running the original strut rod cams because I didn't notice the plate in my kit, still need to change that out someday, and I've already had it aligned. Its easy to miss some parts when its a huge kit like that!