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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 05:08 PM
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Five weeks ago I had the wheels balanced and all new shocks installed. Front end is in excellent shape. Did a test drive and no issues. I drove car today again for a car show. The car has been sitting for five weeks. I now notice that at slow speeds the car seems to hop up and down. Cruising at forty to fifty it is nice and smooth. What could have changed? What should I check? If weather is nice tomorrow I will do another test drive. Thanks. Don
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 08:18 PM
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What I mean to say is the car bounces.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 08:21 PM
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tire pressure too high?
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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What I mean to say is the car bounces.
What speed does this occur? Barely creeping at 0.5 mph would likely be posi clutches in need of additive, bad prop. shaft u-joints binding, wheel/wheels installed incorrectly, bulge on tire/tires (aka slipped belt). Let us know what you find.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 08:37 PM
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Tires are at 35 all the way around.
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Old Aug 20, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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Does it around 30. Cruising 40 through 50 nice and smooth. The car did sit for 5 weeks in 90° average temps. Not sure how old the tires are. Same ones when I bought the car.
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Old Aug 21, 2016 | 08:21 AM
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Might be an out-of-round tire or wheel. You can jack up each wheel and hand-rotate them to see if tire O.D. or edge of wheel rim could have significant runout. Not uncommon to get a tire that is dimensionally bad.

Also, you don't need 35 psi in your tires. Best all-around performance and ride will be around 30 psi.
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Thanks. I will spin tires and decrease PSI.
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Okay. Here is what I found. This is odd. Before I had the wheels balanced, 30 to 35 mph was pretty smooth except for a slight vibration. Now the car jumps up and down like popcorn. I inspected each wheel and noticed that 3 out of the 4 wheels the weights are moved over 2 inches. I can see where the old weights used to be. Doesn't this seem a bid extreme? I also noticed my left front tire has a slight bulge on the sidewall showing outwards. Not sure if this is also the problem. Comments?
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I also noticed my left front tire has a slight bulge on the sidewall showing outwards.
This would bother me plus you said that the weights are moving around?You mentioned that these are the same tires that you bough the car with... any idea how old or how many miles?

Sitting for weeks is tough on old tires. Might be time for a new set.
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Originally Posted by doning
Five weeks ago I had the wheels balanced and all new shocks installed. Front end is in excellent shape. Did a test drive and no issues. I drove car today again for a car show. The car has been sitting for five weeks. I now notice that at slow speeds the car seems to hop up and down. Cruising at forty to fifty it is nice and smooth. What could have changed? What should I check? If weather is nice tomorrow I will do another test drive. Thanks. Don
Don, first, what brand and size tire are you dealing with?

You say it runs smooth at 40-50, but bounces at 30mph... Once it has smoothed out at 40-50 and you slow down, does it start bouncing again? If it does smooth out after slowing down, it means the tire has probably flat spotted from sitting. And yes even radials can temporarily flat spot if they sit too long.

Having said that and considering the bulge you've observed, and the unknown age of the tires, I would suggest you first try to determine how old they are. Look for the stamped (molded) DOT number on the side wall (it may be on the inside of the tire) first and post it here.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=11
Just a hint, if the last digits are 4 numbers it is a post 2000 tire, three digits means it is a pre-2000 tire.

Good luck... GUSTO

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Thanks for the info. Slowing down after 40 & 50 it starts hopping again. I will look at my DOT on the tires tonight.
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Thanks for the info. Slowing down after 40 & 50 it starts hopping again. I will look at my DOT on the tires tonight.
My guess is you have a flat spot
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Originally Posted by doning
Thanks for the info. Slowing down after 40 & 50 it starts hopping again. I will look at my DOT on the tires tonight.
I have an '85 that sat on it's original Goodyear Gatorbacks for almost 9 years. When I finally started using it again, those tires (with just 8k miles on them) were flat spotted for quite a while before they would run smooth. Even after a few hundred miles, if it sat for a week or more, they would start out flat spotted.

Shortly after that I replaced them with GS-D3's as the rubber had gotten so hard they just "skated" like they were on ice at the slightest application of throttle.

Good luck... GUSTO
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Yeah I'm gonna go with the tires.. Had the issue with some older tires. Not so much flat spotted as had become out of round and the radial belting was starting to rupture... (I know I should have changed them sooner .. my bad)
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Could be a universal joint. I know when my joints were fucked it was pretty bumpy. if you wanna know how out of round the tire is, jack it up, rotate the front tires by hand with a ruler under it and watch how it gets closer/farther from it when you hold it still. Posi clutch chattering happens more during cornering. so if you do a tight corner at 15 you can feel it.
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Could be a universal joint. I know when my joints were fucked it was pretty bumpy. if you wanna know how out of round the tire is, jack it up, rotate the front tires by hand with a ruler under it and watch how it gets closer/farther from it when you hold it still. Posi clutch chattering happens more during cornering. so if you do a tight corner at 15 you can feel it.
Maybe but I blew ujoint once and it was very obvious that from the sound and ride that the car had a serious issue. There was nothing subtle about it. But I guess if they were just badly worn but not completely blown, I would think there could be some noise at slow speeds accompanying that too. You could certainly get underneath the rear and check for excessive play

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Thanks for your input! It's not U-joints. Had them checked last fall by my mechanic. All super tight. I'm just going to go ahead and buy new tires. I see a slight bulge in my LF tire. Not bad but there's something there. Also, my sidewalls are hard as concrete. I was thinking of going with the Cooper Cobra GT's to keep the cost down. I can get them for under $100.00 ea. Have you heard any horror stories about them?
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Thanks for your input! It's not U-joints. Had them checked last fall by my mechanic. All super tight. I'm just going to go ahead and buy new tires. I see a slight bulge in my LF tire. Not bad but there's something there. Also, my sidewalls are hard as concrete. I was thinking of going with the Cooper Cobra GT's to keep the cost down. I can get them for under $100.00 ea. Have you heard any horror stories about them?
I really don't mind the cooper cobras. I think they ride well look good enough and if the price is right I think they are a fine tire, and if you've seen a bulge that's probably definitely the issue. They certainly will be a an improvement over what you've got. And you don't want to wait like I did thinking aaah it'll make it a little longer and then it gets bad and the bulge was on the rear tire for me. The bulge the last drive I took swelled up and and just as I was trying to creep home got big enough to knock the muffler out ... shakes head.. change the tires! Can make or break the car.
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Cooper Cobra tires are about the same quality as the BFG T/A radial tires. They cost a little less as there is more demand for the T/A's.

If you have a membership at Sam's Club, you can buy 235R60-15 BFG T/A's from them at reasonable prices. Also, their lifetime balance and rotate plan is very good and very reasonable. You may have to order on-line and have sent to your local store.

Bulging sidewalls are NOT a good thing. Best not do much highway driving until you get them changed. Blowouts at speed are NOT good on a fiberglass Corvette.
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