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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 12:02 AM
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Sorry, I misunderstood the question. For just the cam you can put in whatever oil you want to use and drive it.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SH-60B
Gotta disagree with you there. The roller cam won't need break-in. The crank bearings should be riding on a wedge of motor oil, if they are contacting at all, someone ignored clearances. I've never seen a procedure for breaking in a distributor gear or a timing set either.
After biulding a few roller engines I was trying to get the point across that there are other parts of the engine that have metal to metal contact (rings) and you still need to use a breakin oil for the first 500miles, after that you can use whatever you want as long as the oil has a good zddp levels.

If you are right about the crank and crank bearings then they should last forever, unfortunaltly in the real world they do wear out and the crank needs to be machined and new bearing to match are needed
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MotorHead
After biulding a few roller engines I was trying to get the point across that there are other parts of the engine that have metal to metal contact (rings) and you still need to use a breakin oil for the first 500miles, after that you can use whatever you want as long as the oil has a good zddp levels.

If you are right about the crank and crank bearings then they should last forever, unfortunaltly in the real world they do wear out and the crank needs to be machined and new bearing to match are needed
​​​If you are right about break in oil it would never need a rebuild either. In the REAL world a roller cam needs no break in, as there is nothing taking a set to anything else. You can run used roller lifters on a new cam and vice versa...... in the real world.
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by caryb78
I am confused. I am having a roller cam installed in my 78 L-82 Do I need a break in oil or can I stay with my Quaker State
My answer was on the statement in the OP's opening statement/question "I am having a roller cam installed".
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Old Sep 21, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 540 RAT
Manufacturers do NOT use Break-In Oil because it is NOT needed. All engine parts, including rings will break-in perfectly fine with normal oil. No oil on earth can stop parts from breaking-in. Because microscopic high points on any part will immediately wear down as required for the part to support the load applied to it.

Remember, rings are forced out against the cylinder walls by combustion pressure behind them in their backspace between the ID of the ring and the piston's ring groove back wall. That's how rings are designed.

If an engine has any trouble breaking-in, it was not built correctly. Period.

Break-In oils are the absolute worst oils on the market, because they provide dangerously little wear protection. Many engines have been ruined during break-in because of people using those worthless oils. And the people involved want to blame everything in the world other than the oil. They just don't know, what they don't know.

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What does any of this have to do with this post - nothing!!

Oh, and I have never heard of your 'blog'.
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