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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 11:53 AM
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Ran across a set of 1970 double hump 1.94 heads for $350. With the accessory bolt holes. Even if I double that with machine shop work, it's still half the cost of AFR heads and they still look like Chevy heads.

Going on my 79 L82 along with a cam change. True duals, Lars carb and recurved ignition has woke it up but I'm looking to really wake it up now.

What sayeth the all knowing small block gurus? Deal or no deal?
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Might be half the cost but dont expect to be impressed with the power.
Sure AFRS are more but the power level will slaughter the best ported iron ones with a lifetime warrantee
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Ran across a set of 1970 double hump 1.94 heads for $350. With the accessory bolt holes. Even if I double that with machine shop work, it's still half the cost of AFR heads and they still look like Chevy heads.

Going on my 79 L82 along with a cam change. True duals, Lars carb and recurved ignition has woke it up but I'm looking to really wake it up now.

What sayeth the all knowing small block gurus? Deal or no deal?
I also like the GM look :- )

Before you buy, then please inspect as much as you can, if you need new valves or guides plus cutting the seat, then the price will go up quiet a bit.

Below is a set of 69 186 heads from my extra L46 engine, the engine cam from a 69 convertible with 65k miles on it.

I did grind the valves with my valve grinding machine, but I had to grind much, so they are close to be scraped, I didn't because the engine will never come into a car again.





After a bit of work, but still not finish.





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if you want performance double hump heads that were on 1970 L-46 and LT-1 they have 2.02 intakes not 1.94
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if you want performance double hump heads that were on 1970 L-46 and LT-1 they have 2.02 intakes not 1.94
That's what I thought, too, but he says these are 1.94. According to the seller, only the Z28 engine was 2.02

I'm just wondering if they're worth it if I have to throw a bunch more money at them with reconditioning at a machine shop.

Iron Darts are $1300 and AFR is running about $1650.

Not trying to build a fire breather and the double humps have to be a tremendous improvement over the stock heads.
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That's what I thought, too, but he says these are 1.94. According to the seller, only the Z28 engine was 2.02

I'm just wondering if they're worth it if I have to throw a bunch more money at them with reconditioning at a machine shop.

Iron Darts are $1300 and AFR is running about $1650.

Not trying to build a fire breather and the double humps have to be a tremendous improvement over the stock heads.
If you go the AFR way, then I have a good contact, that can sell cheaper.
He is a AFR seller, with full AFR program.
PM me, if you want contact info.
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Originally Posted by MelWff
if you want performance double hump heads that were on 1970 L-46 and LT-1 they have 2.02 intakes not 1.94
Same valve size for L46 engines in 69
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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The slight bump in compression might save your low end torque if you are installing a slightly bigger cam but as stated above, don't expect the 30-40hp jump in power that the aluminum heads are delivering.
With that said and depending on cam choice, it could be a fun little 350
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Originally Posted by Capt. Shark
That's what I thought, too, but he says these are 1.94. According to the seller, only the Z28 engine was 2.02

I'm just wondering if they're worth it if I have to throw a bunch more money at them with reconditioning at a machine shop.

Iron Darts are $1300 and AFR is running about $1650.

Not trying to build a fire breather and the double humps have to be a tremendous improvement over the stock heads.
The seller is incorrect concerning the Z28 being the only Chevy small block in 1970 having 2.02 valves. If you are doing a cam change the cam benefits will not be there with the small valve heads
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however if your gonning to rework the heads, drop in new hardened seats,
just install 2.02 valves, new guides and of course you want screw in studs.
to properly rework the heads, with machine work and new valves/springs,
your looking at app. $1000.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt. Shark
That's what I thought, too, but he says these are 1.94. According to the seller, only the Z28 engine was 2.02

I'm just wondering if they're worth it if I have to throw a bunch more money at them with reconditioning at a machine shop.

Iron Darts are $1300 and AFR is running about $1650.

Not trying to build a fire breather and the double humps have to be a tremendous improvement over the stock heads.
Thy are not worth putting a dime into them. Even ported and polished with larger valves the flow is low and the chambers are a poor design
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 10:24 PM
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Adding 2.02 valves and opening the throat will give you about the same flow as the L-82 heads. The only advantage is the smaller chamber. I agree they would be a waste of time and would limit the improvement from the cam.
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It's not worth the trouble at all. Some more compression isn't going to change the world as opposed to some heads that actually flow. Those are likely worse than your L-82 heads.


Save your money until you can afford some real performance heads.


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A point of extra compression does wonders for an L-82, but those heads aren't the best way toward an optimized goal.
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You guys are right, by the time I have the double hump heads reworked I can almost buy new technology Vortec or Dart or even AFR. I would like to use my existing intake and valve covers but it's my understanding I can't do that with the Vortec heads. Can't seem to find that out about the Darts. AFR I can reuse them, also. Maybe the Chinese stuff is OK but I would much rather use a USA cast head.

Sooooooo, now what do you think?
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BTDT with some 461 bigger valves milling screw in studsbowl blend etc it ran exactly the same;complete waste of money!
If there was a difference I sure couldnt telll
Save and get some good American made heads

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Originally Posted by Capt. Shark
You guys are right, by the time I have the double hump heads reworked I can almost buy new technology Vortec or Dart or even AFR. I would like to use my existing intake and valve covers but it's my understanding I can't do that with the Vortec heads. Can't seem to find that out about the Darts. AFR I can reuse them, also. Maybe the Chinese stuff is OK but I would much rather use a USA cast head.

Sooooooo, now what do you think?
Go for AFR :- )
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I know people have gotten good results and swear by the vortec heads but I'm not really impressed with them. Dart is likely the most cost effective units out there that are American made.
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Originally Posted by 7t9l82
I know people have gotten good results and swear by the vortec heads but I'm not really impressed with them. Dart is likely the most cost effective units out there that are American made.
What do you think about these?

https://www.profilerperformance.com/...ree-heads.html

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Originally Posted by c3_dk
Go for AFR :- )
Pretty sure I'm going that route. This thing is just like my boat.....

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