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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 09:35 AM
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During my gearbox rebuild I decided to replace the missing switch for my back up lights, fortunately the mounting bracket was still there but I can't find the electrical connection.
Where should it be located 1970 SBC convertible, looks like another Bubba mod I'm reversing, like the door ajar wires and interior light wires which were all cut!
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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Grahamred70
During my gearbox rebuild I decided to replace the missing switch for my back up lights, fortunately the mounting bracket was still there but I can't find the electrical connection.
Where should it be located 1970 SBC convertible, looks like another Bubba mod I'm reversing, like the door ajar wires and interior light wires which were all cut!
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Green & Green/Black wires with connector.
Comes through the firewall normally via the 4 hole rubber plug just to the passenger side of the master cylinder. The transmission switch has the same color wires with a plug and the two plugs meet @ where the firewall transitions to the transmission tunnel.
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Thanks a lot I'll check that out tonight when I get home.


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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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Hi G70,
As HF described the connection for the back-up light switch comes from the dash harness through the 4 hole grommet. It only extends into the engine compartment a couple of inches.
Notice that the lead is typically wrapped so you only see a little bit of the colored wires.
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi G70,
As HF described the connection for the back-up light switch comes from the dash harness through the 4 hole grommet. It only extends into the engine compartment a couple of inches.
Notice that the lead is typically wrapped so you only see a little bit of the colored wires.
Good Luck!
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Thanks for the picture Alan, I just wish my engine bay looked like yours!
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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 02:26 PM
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Hi G70,
Engine compartments, (and chassis too,) actually take more TIME than anything else.
They really don't eat money the way the exterior and interior of a car can!
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Old Nov 21, 2016 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi G70,
Engine compartments, (and chassis too,) actually take more TIME than anything else.
They really don't eat money the way the exterior and interior of a car can!
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That's so true, a PO had thought it would improve my engine bay if they sprayed matt black over everything so now all my wires are black so no more colour codes or coloured stripes on vacuum hoses, I'm sure you've got the picture
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Hi G70,
Yes, more than a few restorations around that were done with a can of black, Chevy orange, and Cast Blast.
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Hi G70,
Yes, more than a few restorations around that were done with a can of black, Chevy orange, and Cast Blast.
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Forgot to mention the Chevy orange flaking off everywhere, the oil pan looks like it's got some kind of weird skin desease! at least the clutch housing looks good after being stripped and repainted chevy orange.
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi G70,
As HF described the connection for the back-up light switch comes from the dash harness through the 4 hole grommet. It only extends into the engine compartment a couple of inches.
Notice that the lead is typically wrapped so you only see a little bit of the colored wires.
Good Luck!
Regards,
Alan

And you can't really see it in Alan's picture but the connector is an "L" shape. Once you get your new switch installed you'll have to adjust it. What I did was install the switch and set my DVM to ohms (and beep if yours has it) clip the leads to the switch side connector. You'll notice that the front and rear bolt holes on the switch are ovals. Loosen then and move the switch up and down until you get a closed reading or beep on your DVM. Tighten everything up and your good (as long as the switch didn't move while tightening).

Keep in mind the switch has very little throw to turn it on and off.
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Thanks everyone, I have the additional problem that I'm missing the linkage between the switch and the reverse arm but I'm sure I can make something to do that job, already had my MM on the switch to determine the switch point.
I managed to get some nice button head stainless allen screws to mount the switch with so well on the way now, weather was horrible last night so didn't venture out once I got indoors.
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Hi G70,
Here's a photo of the switch, bracket and link/rod.
Perhaps it'll be a help to you in making the link/rod.
Besides getting the length and configuration right remember you'll need some clips of some sort to hold it in place.
The original uses 2 very small hair-pin clips that slide into grooves in the link/rod.
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Also notice the small hole in the side of the switch bracket. In the AIM it's called an index hole or something like that. You can take a small drill bit or wire and you are suppose to line up the hole in the bracket and the hole on the switch side (short side of the boomerang looking piece) that pivots. Look at the switch and you'll see what I'm talking about.....hopefully.
Anyway. If you make a rod be sure that this indexing of the switch is done. After your rod is installed then you can adjust it like I suggested. It's quick and easy.

Another thread on the subject:
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Thanks for that additional info, I assume with a pin in the holes the switch is on.
Found the electrical connection and in a fit of activity got my gearbox back in place, one tip to note, don't attach anything to the gearbox until it's back in place, had to remove the switch and the rubber mount with it half in and half out all the time lying on my back wondering if it was all going to come down on top of me!
Anyway all good now, next battle is getting the shifter back in place, not much space up there!
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Originally Posted by Grahamred70
Thanks for that additional info, I assume with a pin in the holes the switch is on.
Found the electrical connection and in a fit of activity got my gearbox back in place, one tip to note, don't attach anything to the gearbox until it's back in place, had to remove the switch and the rubber mount with it half in and half out all the time lying on my back wondering if it was all going to come down on top of me!
Anyway all good now, next battle is getting the shifter back in place, not much space up there!
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Don't know, didn't test that.

Been there, done that.

Good luck
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Got some 1/8" rod to make a linkage, just waiting for some spring clips to arrive for the ends and I'll get it made up and that'll be another job off the list!
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Originally Posted by Grahamred70
Got some 1/8" rod to make a linkage, just waiting for some spring clips to arrive for the ends and I'll get it made up and that'll be another job off the list!
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I didn't do this on my backup light linkage but on my choke linkage (which seems to be the same diameter of the backup linkage) I took some .025 SS safety wire (aircraft mechanics toolbox staple) and used that as a "clip" since I didn't have one for the choke. It fits perfectly in the little groove on the end of the rod. My guess is that would work on the backup rod as well.

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I didn't do this on my backup light linkage but on my choke linkage (which seems to be the same diameter of the backup linkage) I took some .025 SS safety wire (aircraft mechanics toolbox staple) and used that as a "clip" since I didn't have one for the choke. It fits perfectly in the little groove on the end of the rod. My guess is that would work on the backup rod as well.
I did not have the link rod which is why I made my own then I needed a means to secure the ends so I purchased some of the clips like those used in door lock link rods to complete the job.
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I did not have the link rod which is why I made my own then I needed a means to secure the ends so I purchased some of the clips like those used in door lock link rods to complete the job.
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After making up the rod linkage the clips didn't work as the levers were too wide to be able to assemble the clips so back to the drawing board! This time I've gone for those star washers which push on and the little fingers grip the rod and prevent them coming off, realise it will be a bit of a fiddle if it ever needs to come off but not planning to take it off again any time soon!
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Hi Graham,
You might think about using a file to form a little groove maybe 3/16"-1/4" from the end of the rod you made.
This might help the star washer you're going to use have a little something to 'settle' into.
Regards,
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This sort of clip works well too. It does require a groove for the prong to grab into.
For this clip the groove is only about 1/8" from the end go the rod.


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