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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 04:47 PM
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I didn't really understand that timing gears were a thing until today...


Why would you use a timing chain vs. timing gears?


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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 04:52 PM
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Just watched the Summit video on the subject; they said that the gear sets can cause false positive in EFI system knock sensors and make them retard the ignition timing as a result... Automatically out for me.

If anyone else has any opinions on pros / cons, I'd love to see them but I think I'm back in the dual roller camp now.


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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:17 PM
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Just my opinion, only really needed for best spark accuracy (Belt Drive also) and /or when driving a Fuel Injection Pump.
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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NewbVetteGuy
Just watched the Summit video on the subject; they said that the gear sets can cause false positive in EFI system knock sensors and make them retard the ignition timing as a result... Automatically out for me.

If anyone else has any opinions on pros / cons, I'd love to see them but I think I'm back in the dual roller camp now.


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Does the fuel injection system you're planning use a knock sensor? Most aftermarket systems don't.
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You need to provide extra oiling for it too.
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Originally Posted by Metalhead140
Does the fuel injection system you're planning use a knock sensor? Most aftermarket systems don't.
The Holley Terminator and HP EFI systems support, but don't come with a knock sensor; I plan on using one given my 8.7:1 DCR.


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Old Dec 7, 2016 | 07:58 PM
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You could put timing gears in the old small block chevys and they would whine like you had a blower.
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Originally Posted by lbzraptor
You could put timing gears in the old small block chevys and they would whine like you had a blower.
Yea, Summit actually sells a timing gear that's "Extra noisy" -I watched their video: they literally created a timing gear so that you get that "blower noise". Apparently an option for ricers who end up driving chevy's??


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Cloys double roller......dunno where made today, but ~20 years ago, USA made......

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I had a dodge Omega once in college...when I was poor. Damn thing had a bakelite timing gear pressed onto the camshaft. Before that, I used to think timing gears were the stuff of high rpm, high compression motors with superchargers and gobs of horsepower.

Today, as an engineer, I try to select things for my car based on the application. In my opinion, timing gears are only better than timing chains if your application requires the precision, added strength, or increased operational range delivered by the gear set. Putting a gear set on a mildy built SBC results in the same performance as a timing chain, with the addition of a really cool sound. A timing gear may be more durable, but you can easily get over 150K miles out of a good timing chain. And you can buy three sets for the price of a timing gear set.

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Go with the Cloyes or other double roller chain. If you are on a full rebuild, tap and plug the front 3 galley holes with 1/4 NPT plugs and drill a 0.030-0.035" hole in the center of the middle plug to lube the back of the cam gear. If not, skip that and just install a double roller.
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