Don't wanna CRACK IT!
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Melting Slicks
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Don't wanna CRACK IT!
Last time I tried seating the Lower Steering Shaft Bearing into it's plastic Housing, I cracked it. The Housing that cracked was old, and this one is new, but still, the fit seems extremely tight. I don't enjoy the thought of having to buy another one should I crack this one too.
Any tricks to this step you have used to lower the risk?
Thanks.
Steve
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Hi Steve,
Would some lubricant help?
I used a little bit of bearing grease on a tight fit that I was afraid of damaging with good results.
Sometimes it's the 'traction' between the 2 surfaces that stop it from going together.
Maybe?
Regards,
Alan
Would some lubricant help?
I used a little bit of bearing grease on a tight fit that I was afraid of damaging with good results.
Sometimes it's the 'traction' between the 2 surfaces that stop it from going together.
Maybe?
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Dec 30, 2016 at 10:01 AM.
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Melting Slicks
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I remember I was in, for some strange and of course unjustified, a hurry and started pressing the bearing into the housing, using a vice. Was probably not "squarely" aligned and pop! Don't recall using any lube.
I'm doing a dry run on fitting the works together just now, and I'm wondering if I can assemble this together now, THEN seat the bearing into the plastic Housing, with the Housing's Holding Ring acting as reinforcement, as the bearing is seated with a PVC pipe of proper diameter?
Steve
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Hi Steve,
I wish I could offer some advice but I really can't.
I've not had my column apart so don't know the best/safest way to reassemble.
Using a piece of pvc pipe of the proper diameter sounds like a good idea.
Sorry!
Regards,
Alan
I wish I could offer some advice but I really can't.
I've not had my column apart so don't know the best/safest way to reassemble.
Using a piece of pvc pipe of the proper diameter sounds like a good idea.
Sorry!
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Dec 30, 2016 at 11:43 AM.
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Hi Steve,
I really don't know what I'm looking at but at least from the photo I don't see how THAT bearing can fit into the collar.
I though you were describing a 'snug' fit but that really looks simply too big!
Jim Shea will know in a moment I think!
Regards,
Alan
I wish I could spot something on the column in my car, but with it assembled, what I need to see, is concealed!
I really don't know what I'm looking at but at least from the photo I don't see how THAT bearing can fit into the collar.
I though you were describing a 'snug' fit but that really looks simply too big!
Jim Shea will know in a moment I think!
Regards,
Alan
I wish I could spot something on the column in my car, but with it assembled, what I need to see, is concealed!
Last edited by Alan 71; Dec 30, 2016 at 12:17 PM.
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Melting Slicks
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There must be something wrong here.
Thanks Neil.
Steve
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Melting Slicks
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Alan,
Thanks for the pictures. It always makes things clearer.
Kacy,
I thought about that before I gave up.
I did have the bearing in the freezer, and it was a snug fit working onto the shaft, but it went onto it. But I didn't heat the plastic (or is it nylon?) housing though.
If I did soak it in boiling water and try to insert the frozen bearing into it, perhaps that might work. Thanks!
You've given me new motivation sir.
Steve
Thanks for the pictures. It always makes things clearer.
Kacy,
I thought about that before I gave up.
I did have the bearing in the freezer, and it was a snug fit working onto the shaft, but it went onto it. But I didn't heat the plastic (or is it nylon?) housing though.
If I did soak it in boiling water and try to insert the frozen bearing into it, perhaps that might work. Thanks!
You've given me new motivation sir.
Steve
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Hi,
Wanted to see if I could find a picture of a white collar installed thinking that would indicate a replacement?
Here's one… member speedreed8 posted it.
The thread is about rag joints though, not bearings/collars.
Regards,
Alan
Don't know what if anything this implies?
Wanted to see if I could find a picture of a white collar installed thinking that would indicate a replacement?
Here's one… member speedreed8 posted it.
The thread is about rag joints though, not bearings/collars.
Regards,
Alan
Don't know what if anything this implies?
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What year car ? tilt or Std column ? where did parts come from?
We gotta know
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Melting Slicks
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Hi,
Wanted to see if I could find a picture of a white collar installed thinking that would indicate a replacement?
Here's one… member speedreed8 posted it.
The thread is about rag joints though, not bearings/collars.
Regards,
Alan
Don't know what if anything this implies?
Wanted to see if I could find a picture of a white collar installed thinking that would indicate a replacement?
Here's one… member speedreed8 posted it.
The thread is about rag joints though, not bearings/collars.
Regards,
Alan
Don't know what if anything this implies?
I got it started, by way of boiling water submersion of the collar and freezing the bearing prior to putting in the vice.
However, compared to speedreed8's photo, it's got a ways to go.
BUT I DON"T WANNA CRACK IT!
It probably has to seat all the way until the bearing's outer flange butts up to the Collar. Otherwise the Tube Cap's "C" Lock Clip won't align and reach the recesses in the collar in order to lock in place.
I think I'll submerse the collar in boiling water up to the bearing and try pressing it in again. I'll also spray silicon in the collar just prior to putting in the vice.
Steve
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That's what I thought too Az. But the nylon evidently really does stretch, and bigtime too.
The parts came from and were purchased for a '71 T/T Column.
Steve
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Melting Slicks
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Finally got it in.
Seated the bearing a bit deeper into the collar using hot water on the collar and vice squeezing. It all went together and I'm happy with it.
Thanks to all who responded.
And Happy New Year!
Steve
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Glad you got it! I swear mine went together by hand. I just set the collar on the workbench, lubed the bearing and pressed it in with the palm of my hand. I guess it's just different tolerances depending on where the parts come from.