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Old May 1, 2017 | 10:05 AM
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I've searched the topic and there is a lot of info on the forum about this. So I know that there are 3 things that can cause this, those being a bad tach cable, a bad tach, and the gears at the distributer. My question is this, about 3-4 years ago I bought a new repro tach from a vendor, ( can't remember who as it was so long ago) and I finally got it installed. I changed it because it had the wrong redline for the 400HP motor and it the old one bounced a little. The new one bounces like crazy. When you hit the gas it bounces between 2-4000 RPM so it's a big guess as to how fast you are really spinning. I understand from reading the various threads about this, the new tachs use different style magnets inside that can cause this.

Here is the question. If I change out the cable and gears, will that solve the problem? Or will I still have the problem due to the new tach. Would it be better to buy a used tach?

Willcox, if you're listening, please chime in as I know you have rebuilt a lot of tachs.

Thanks for the good help.
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I've searched the topic and there is a lot of info on the forum about this. So I know that there are 3 things that can cause this, those being a bad tach cable, a bad tach, and the gears at the distributer. My question is this, about 3-4 years ago I bought a new repro tach from a vendor, ( can't remember who as it was so long ago) and I finally got it installed. I changed it because it had the wrong redline for the 400HP motor and it the old one bounced a little. The new one bounces like crazy. When you hit the gas it bounces between 2-4000 RPM so it's a big guess as to how fast you are really spinning. I understand from reading the various threads about this, the new tachs use different style magnets inside that can cause this.

Here is the question. If I change out the cable and gears, will that solve the problem? Or will I still have the problem due to the new tach. Would it be better to buy a used tach?

Willcox, if you're listening, please chime in as I know you have rebuilt a lot of tachs.

Thanks for the good help.
It's hard to tell... the best thing you could do at this point is to hook up a drill to the tach cable and see how it responds with the drill.

You didn't say what year the car is so that's leaving me guessing that it's a 1968-1974 car. But if the tach works okay with the drill then I'd go to the distributor cross gears and check them next.

If the tach fails with the drill then I'd try replacing the cable first... then I'd pull the tach.. You can still test the tach on the bench with your drill after you pull it.

Odds are if it's an old tachometer the first worm and magnet is worn out, if it's a newer one you'll have to test to figure the issue out.
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Thanks, I'll try the drill thing first. It is a new repro tach I bought from another vendor. Found the original box. Like I said, it bounces wildly now, not like with the old tach that was in the car. The old tach was an original 1969 tach. The car is 1969. Thanks again. Just trying not to have to pull the tach again as it is a PITA!! Do you guys rebuild tachs? If so, I'll have the original rebuilt. You guys have done two of my interiors and they are great!!

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I can rebuild it.. .but if it's a new tach in the car I doubt this is your issue.

The dash pad can be pulled pretty easy if you pull the steering column. It makes the job way easier... I have detailed instructions on my help page if you do have to pull it.

http://repairs.willcoxcorvette.com/1...h-pad-removal/

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Originally Posted by Willcox Corvette
It's hard to tell... the best thing you could do at this point is to hook up a drill to the tach cable and see how it responds with the drill.

You didn't say what year the car is so that's leaving me guessing that it's a 1968-1974 car. But if the tach works okay with the drill then I'd go to the distributor cross gears and check them next.

If the tach fails with the drill then I'd try replacing the cable first... then I'd pull the tach.. You can still test the tach on the bench with your drill after you pull it.

Odds are if it's an old tachometer the first worm and magnet is worn out, if it's a newer one you'll have to test to figure the issue out.
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This is interesting. I'm a new corvette owner (old corvette) and this is one of the problems with this car along with some electrical problem causing the battery to not hold charge and the generator indicator is always lit. As far as I can tell it's the original tach so is the first worm and magnet in the distributor or in the tach. Trying to determine which end to begin with.
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First worm and magnet are in the tach- only thing in the distributor is the gears- mainshaft and cross.
Generator indicator always on could be a couple of things- bad diode in the alternator could cover both of your described problems.
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First worm and magnet are in the tach- only thing in the distributor is the gears- mainshaft and cross.
Generator indicator always on could be a couple of things- bad diode in the alternator could cover both of your described problems.

Thanks Tim, good information and good suggestion on the alternator. I appreciate the response.
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Originally Posted by ktraysby
This is interesting. I'm a new corvette owner (old corvette) and this is one of the problems with this car along with some electrical problem causing the battery to not hold charge and the generator indicator is always lit. As far as I can tell it's the original tach so is the first worm and magnet in the distributor or in the tach. Trying to determine which end to begin with.
I'd check the drive gears in the distributor, but I'd also do the drill test to know where the problem is at. If the needle bounces with the drill then the issue is probably in the tach. If the issue is the tach, just as Tim stated, the issue is probably the first worm magnet bushing. If the tach is making a tinging noise, I'd disconnect it until you decide to fix it. A tinging noise is the speed cup hitting the worm magnet and if it catches it hard just one time, it'll slam the needle and either break the needle and/or the speed cup doing more damage.

To remove the tach, follow these instructions on how to remove the driver side dash pad the easy way.

1968-1977 Corvette Left Hand Dash Pad Removal

If you want to know what the parts are inside, this is what it looks like. A tach won't have the second and third or fourth gears because this is what drives the odometer.



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My tach recently started bouncing and acting all crazy for the first time. I lucked out it was a bad connection on the ground to the battery.
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