Rocker arm stud bolt
#1
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Rocker arm stud nut
Hi,
I had a stud bolt nut (Comp Cams) that came loose when driving my car. All the nut are new, the studs are ARP (AFR 195 heads)
Thread on the studs are 3/8-24
What nut must I buy?
I don't want to drive with a loose nut again
Thx.
I had a stud bolt nut (Comp Cams) that came loose when driving my car. All the nut are new, the studs are ARP (AFR 195 heads)
Thread on the studs are 3/8-24
What nut must I buy?
I don't want to drive with a loose nut again
Thx.
Last edited by c3_dk; 05-15-2017 at 12:34 PM.
#2
#3
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Thx.
I have Comp Cams Rocker Arms 1416-16, so will they work with ARP lock nuts?
Also I have L46 alu. valve cover, and I would like to keep them in the car.
#4
You also cannot (should not) use any self-locking type nuts on the ARP R/A studs, this info comes straight from ARP's instructions (photo below) when you purchase their studs.
Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
P.S. Self-locking nuts don't conform well to studs mfd using the "rolled" thread method, this is how all ARP fasteners are mfd. The nuts will work with machined threads! Most studs are now mfd with the "rolled" method.
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#5
Pro
I'm using roller tipped rockers from Comp. Their locking nuts were not easy to get on due to the way the rocker arm is formed, so I'm using their 4602-16 poly lock kit, which are designed for stamped rockers. I'm running L-82 valve covers with no clearance issues (though the drip tabs were removed. I'm not sure if that's necessary though).
#6
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Most "poly-locks" won't fit with the OEM "standard-hgt" valve covers.
You also cannot (should not) use any self-locking type nuts on the ARP R/A studs, this info comes straight from ARP's instructions (photo below) when you purchase their studs.
Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
P.S. Self-locking nuts don't conform well to studs mfd using the "rolled" thread method, this is how all ARP fasteners are mfd. The nuts will work with machined threads! Most studs are now mfd with the "rolled" method.
You also cannot (should not) use any self-locking type nuts on the ARP R/A studs, this info comes straight from ARP's instructions (photo below) when you purchase their studs.
Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
P.S. Self-locking nuts don't conform well to studs mfd using the "rolled" thread method, this is how all ARP fasteners are mfd. The nuts will work with machined threads! Most studs are now mfd with the "rolled" method.
Great info here Gary, I didn't know it was rolled threads, so It make sense for me now, I didn't understand that I've forgotten to adjust and make the extra ½ turn.
I'm using roller tipped rockers from Comp. Their locking nuts were not easy to get on due to the way the rocker arm is formed, so I'm using their 4602-16 poly lock kit, which are designed for stamped rockers. I'm running L-82 valve covers with no clearance issues (though the drip tabs were removed. I'm not sure if that's necessary though).
If they can be used with my Comp Cams 1416 and my L46 alu. valve covers, then I will buy them
Also I agree with the above, so I took a 16mm socket, and CNC it down, so I can adjust correct.
#7
Burning Brakes
I run AFR 195s with the L82 valve cover, comp full roller rockers, ARP studs (7/16 big block studs) with poly locks.
The combination of removing the drip tabs under the valve covers and the fact that the AFR195s come with a raised valve cover mount built-in provides enough clearance.
The only issue I had was with the venting on the valve cover. It was a bit too wide to fit between the two rockers. Needed to be pinched a bit.
The combination of removing the drip tabs under the valve covers and the fact that the AFR195s come with a raised valve cover mount built-in provides enough clearance.
The only issue I had was with the venting on the valve cover. It was a bit too wide to fit between the two rockers. Needed to be pinched a bit.
#9
Safety Car
Thread Starter
Just as a follow up, I bought Comp Cams 4602
But I don't like to see that the pointed screw was 3.68mm "up" from the nut.
So I took 2 washers, and used them as spacers, they are 3.91mm.
Now the pointed screw is just below the nut, and it looks like it just clears the valve cover.
What do you think??
But I don't like to see that the pointed screw was 3.68mm "up" from the nut.
So I took 2 washers, and used them as spacers, they are 3.91mm.
Now the pointed screw is just below the nut, and it looks like it just clears the valve cover.
What do you think??
Last edited by c3_dk; 05-30-2017 at 01:29 PM.
#10
Pro
The locking screw should not stick out above the threads of the outer nut. It's odd that this happened on yours, since (and I double checked) 4602-16 is designed for those rockers. Using polylocks made for full roller rockers will cause the issue you saw. I made that mistake, and the locking screws didn't grab enough threads to lock down tight enough and I had some major problems when they loosened up.
#11
Safety Car
Thread Starter
The locking screw should not stick out above the threads of the outer nut. It's odd that this happened on yours, since (and I double checked) 4602-16 is designed for those rockers. Using polylocks made for full roller rockers will cause the issue you saw. I made that mistake, and the locking screws didn't grab enough threads to lock down tight enough and I had some major problems when they loosened up.
The studs are 0.25" longer "then normal"