Suspension upgrade Shark bite or ride tech??
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C3 of Year Finalist (track prepared) 2019
From what I understand, the dragvette setup is designed to have no camber change in bump - good for drag racing but not ideal for handling. I do agree that taking the suspension load off the halfshaft is a good idea though.
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The thing I like about the 'Dragvette' is the wheels travel in a vertical movement versus the arch movement of the stock C3 suspension. With the spring and shock disconnected and the upper and lower hiem rods adjusted correctly the diff stub axel only moves about 1/16 of an inch in and out through the entire travel of the suspension. No need for those I don't know why they are there C-clips inside the diff. T
There's a very good reason that no production sportscar has a suspension that restricts the tires to vertical movement relative to the frame.
#23
Le Mans Master
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Given that different corners of the performance envelope - and how far into that selected one wishes to venture - typically require a somewhat tailored setup approach, I highly suggest 1) narrowing down what type of tracking/spirited driving it is that you most often intend on doing, 2) determining how much of a priority is such performance in the big picture, and 3) deciding how much homework you're willing to put in.
For example, the subject of rear camber gain having come up, whether and how much is optimal depends on the particular purpose (drag, AX, RR...) and key variables (power level, tires, conditions...) at hand. While eliminating rear camber gain altogether during suspension travel is highly recommended at the strip, and although reducing it to a lesser amount than was originally designed back during bias-ply days is often a good call, retaining some amount of gain is going to be preferable in most circumstances. ...else, your rear outside tire is going to lean over as much as the car rolls when cornering. But, I digress...
There are many other such nuances of chassis tuning about which little can be gleaned from product ad copy, and not everything worth addressing necessarily comes in a box. Long story short: If one truly hopes to achieve handling nirvana, best IMHO to view any aftermarket suspension kit as offering a baseline from which to work. Choosing wisely will, of course, put you closer to your ultimate goals. My $.02
For example, the subject of rear camber gain having come up, whether and how much is optimal depends on the particular purpose (drag, AX, RR...) and key variables (power level, tires, conditions...) at hand. While eliminating rear camber gain altogether during suspension travel is highly recommended at the strip, and although reducing it to a lesser amount than was originally designed back during bias-ply days is often a good call, retaining some amount of gain is going to be preferable in most circumstances. ...else, your rear outside tire is going to lean over as much as the car rolls when cornering. But, I digress...
There are many other such nuances of chassis tuning about which little can be gleaned from product ad copy, and not everything worth addressing necessarily comes in a box. Long story short: If one truly hopes to achieve handling nirvana, best IMHO to view any aftermarket suspension kit as offering a baseline from which to work. Choosing wisely will, of course, put you closer to your ultimate goals. My $.02
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#24
Melting Slicks
As Metalhead mentioned, vertical suspension movement is only useful in drag racing. For cornering, the tire has to move in an arc to offset the frame lean in order to keep the tires vertical compared to the ground.
There's a very good reason that no production sportscar has a suspension that restricts the tires to vertical movement relative to the frame.
There's a very good reason that no production sportscar has a suspension that restricts the tires to vertical movement relative to the frame.
#25
Le Mans Master
#26
Melting Slicks
I ask because I've made a 1/2" spacer to lower the camber bracket and reduce rear camber gain, but have not installed it yet.
Last edited by 69autoXr; 05-25-2017 at 01:53 PM.
#27
Race Director
So.... out of curiosity, would you care to share your suspension with us?
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Melting Slicks
#29
Melting Slicks
I am running Dragvette 6-link set up that restricts any camber gain, as Skunk works mentioned scrubbing off outside edge of tire there fore the higher initial camber settings. Seems to work good for me. At Road America 4.1 mi track I'm running laps at 2min 41sec, which is averaging 1.7 miles per minute, at the Milw Mile 1.8 mile road track my times are 1min 21sec averaging 1.49 miles per minute, As in comparison a 911 Carrera turbo was running 1min 17 secs. An Audi R10 was running 1min 18secs. Lets see Audi $170k, Porsche $85k, 6t8 $30k. I'm pleased with my 6t8 vette. T
#30
Melting Slicks
Oh ok. I wasn't sure if you had the Dragvette installed or if you were just commenting on the design. Now I understand.
thanks
thanks
#32
Pro
Would need to fab up a custom bracket. If you did this, they should bolt right on.