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Old Jun 11, 2017 | 07:29 PM
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Yesterday I completed my R12 to R134a conversion on my 1981, and was charging the system.

When I was changing from the 2nd bottle to the third bottle, I realized that I forgot to turn off the low pressure valve before disconnecting the bottle. It was just for a few seconds, but worried I got air in the system.

Is there a way I can purge that air with total evacuation and starting over?

Also, is there a way to test after the charge to make sure I have both the right amount of oil and the right amount of coolant in the system?

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well, since you get cans of R-134a for less than 8 bucks at walmart I would probably just give it a shot and see if it cools.
How many cans is the system going to take (total ounces)?
As part of your conversion did you empty old system, clean internals(I did mine with brakekleen- then blew with compressed air), and then evacuate?
OR did you just do a quickie conversion?
In other words-- Did you empty out all the old oil?

You need to determine how much oil your system holds and then you can use the R-134a pressurized oil cans to add the oil.
BUT I suggest you determine how much oil your system takes before you go any further. You don't want to overcharge because will not function to cool as well.

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Old Jun 11, 2017 | 10:15 PM
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Unless you let all the freon out, air cannot infiltrate under pressure.
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Originally Posted by carriljc
well, since you get cans of R-134a for less than 8 bucks at walmart I would probably just give it a shot and see if it cools.
How many cans is the system going to take (total ounces)?
As part of your conversion did you empty old system, clean internals(I did mine with brakekleen- then blew with compressed air), and then evacuate?
OR did you just do a quickie conversion?
In other words-- Did you empty out all the old oil?

You need to determine how much oil your system holds and then you can use the R-134a pressurized oil cans to add the oil.
BUT I suggest you determine how much oil your system takes before you go any further. You don't want to overcharge because will not function to cool as well.
After some research, I added 4 12oz cans of straight r134a. I did empty the system (the low pressure line had broke and needed to be replaced), flushed the high pressure lines and the condenser with an AC flush, I added 3oz of pag150 oil to the compressor (after draining the compressor for a day) then added a 3oz can of pressurized pag150 during the charge.

So total of 6oz of pag150 (not sure if all 3oz from the pressurized can made it in, but close), and ~45oz of coolant made it in I believe.
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Originally Posted by Big2Bird
Unless you let all the freon out, air cannot infiltrate under pressure.
Bird, isn't the system 'sucking' in whatever is on the low pressure line when the engine is running? When I disconnected the can, I heard the air sound and quickly shut off the valve. But it was a few seconds before my brain made that happened.

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Originally Posted by Zero1Niner
Bird, isn't the system 'sucking' in whatever is on the low pressure line when the engine is running? When I disconnected the can, I heard the air sound and quickly shut off the valve. But it was a few seconds before my brain made that happened.
As Bird said, you're fine. That was the sound of the refrigerant gas charge escaping the valve.

The low pressure side is still higher pressure than atmosphere - so you let gas escape, you did not let air in.
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 09:28 AM
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As long as the system had pressure, there is no way you could have drawn air into the system through the suction side.
Let r rip!
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