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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 09:40 PM
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The owners manual on my 69 says to add coolant but doesn't say anything about water. Should I be adding a 50/50 mixture or does it want straight coolant?
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 09:42 PM
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The owners manual on my 69 says to add coolant but doesn't say anything about water. Should I be adding a 50/50 mixture or does it want straight coolant?
I would use the pre mixed 50/50.
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 09:56 PM
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Pre mixed 50/50 is the biggest joke ever. You are literally paying a premium for something half water.

Buy a gallon of straight antifreeze and either use tap water or buy an 89 cent gallon of distilled water. You get 2 gallons for probably $3-4 more than pre mixed garbage

And yes you cannot just run straight coolant you must add water.

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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 10:22 PM
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50% distilled water (get gallon jugs at any grocery store for about a buck a gallon) and 50% ethylene glycol antifreeze. Paying extra for having the mix already in a single bottle is NUTS!!!
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 01:09 AM
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1/2 water should be 1/2 price, but its not,

Pre mix is for the guys who don't want any extra steps,

I wouldnt run tap in an aluminum radiator though
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:10 AM
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50 50 mix cools better than straight Anti freeze no matter who mixes it
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by croaker
50 50 mix cools better than straight Anti freeze no matter who mixes it
Very true, and straight water is even better at heat transfer,
But some must have "antifreeze"
And straight water has no additives for the pump and corrosion,
Im in florida and do not need antifreeze i run special bats water and additives like hyperlube....but the op didnt ask that,
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Old Jun 25, 2017 | 11:45 AM
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Pre mixed 50/50 is the biggest joke ever. You are literally paying a premium for something half water.

typically use 50/50 or up to 70/30 dont overthink it
Never had a problem running tap on any radiator either just drive it.
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
Very true, and straight water is even better at heat transfer,
But some must have "antifreeze"
And straight water has no additives for the pump and corrosion,
Im in florida and do not need antifreeze i run special bats water and additives like hyperlube....but the op didnt ask that,
Also raises the boiling temp of the coolant over straight water, so some hot area folks might like that as well.
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Originally Posted by REELAV8R
Also raises the boiling temp of the coolant over straight water, so some hot area folks might like that as well.
That is true, my way of thinking about it which could very well have flaws but has worked for me is my system is still a pressurized system which rasies boiling point 212 some, then hyperlube adds a little but in 30 years of not running antifreeze i have never had a "boil over" situation that antifreeze would have cured or prevented, like the 66 with wore out radiator or 86 that blew a hose, the xterra blew the radiator,
While i know antifreeze really is part of a cooling system for some people for me i would rather just overkill other parts, i run a custom larger dewitts radiator, extra large cfm fans, and i just dont see high Temps, and i live in florida.

100% of manufacturers of aftermarket aluminum radiators say do not run tap water, by this point we all know,why they say this,
My additives likely would pervent corrosion even if i did use tap water but im really cheap and it hurt what i paid for my dewitts radiator, why take any chances?
I would like to see some research on using reverse osmosis filtered water
Rather than distilled

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anyone using this waterless coolant made by evans?
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Never had a problem running tap on any radiator either just drive it.
Nope. Bad idea.

Always use distilled water.
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Originally Posted by 81vettski
anyone using this waterless coolant made by evans?
A couple people here run it, and like it when i first heard of it i thought it was my answer but i reaserched it and the hassles and cons do not make it at all worth it to me, perhaps some feel differently.
I saw on here a post saying some aftermarket radiator companies say evans voids their warranties.

If you do not start with a fresh cooling system and block you have to flush with evans expensive flush, any small percent of water effects it greatly.
It of course means you have to keep evans on hand for top offs,
And even evans says many will see a higher temp on their gauge with evans, i dont want higher temps,
Evans does not transfer heat as well as water or pre mix,

Here is a very good report,
Its unbiased, but one must understand the tech involved, i had to chat with my step brother who has degrees and works in these fields,


http://www.norosion.com/evanstest.htm

In most all cases all a person needs in a c3 corvette is water antifreeze mix, its cheap, easy, and works.....dewitts even makes their own version,

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Originally Posted by The13Bats

Here is a very good report,
Its unbiased, but one must understand the tech involved, i had to chat with my step brother who has degrees and works in these fields,


http://www.norosion.com/evanstest.htm

In most all cases all a person needs in a c3 corvette is water antifreeze mix, its cheap, easy, and works.....dewitts even makes their own version,
Not sure if it's unbiased seeing that norosion is in the coolant business but I see no need to use Evans for reasons already mentioned.
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Old Jun 26, 2017 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 81vettski
anyone using this waterless coolant made by evans?
I use Evans, no overheating problems. I've used it for 6 years. I have older cars, and am tired of replacing the heater cores and radiators due to corrosion.
BTW, check your radiator caps! I just had 2 caps pressure tested over the weekend, both failed. For a standard system using water, you must be able to increase the boiling point of the cooloant for it to work properly. Just a tip....
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I've read the distilled water debate for years on various forums. I know many people swear you have to run distilled in your cooling system.


I point out 2 things for tap water- most of you guys drink the water from your tap, or if you only drink bottled water you are definitely bathing in it, yet you wont put it in your car? this never made sense to me.


2- besides all the cars with all their original radiators I've got some antique tractors, several from the 1940s and 50s and they all have original radiators except 1, which was replaced in the 70s. I'd bet money all of those rads at some point saw water from a creek, animal trough, or puddle when they were low and they have still lasted close to 3/4 a century.


I know tons of guys swear that tap water destroys radiators, but I've seen no evidence of it
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The tap water debate depends on the mineral content of the particular source. That will vary all over the place even within the same area. You may be lucky and have no mineral content and never experience an issue. Other places may have high levels, hard water, and they will leave deposits. Better off spending the money on 2 gallons of distilled.
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Evans isnt the only coolant to keep radiators and heater cores from corrosion,
Mine like many others has never seen evans and has no corrosion,

But this brings us to things like tap water,
If you want to run tap thats fine, if you like it,
most aluminum radiator companies will void a warranty if one uses tap...so no tap for me, not that i would run it anyway.

Oddly a top name aluminum radiator company voids if evans is used but doesnt say why.

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Originally Posted by The13Bats
A couple people here run it, and like it when i first heard of it i thought it was my answer but i reaserched it and the hassles and cons do not make it at all worth it to me, perhaps some feel differently.
I saw on here a post saying some aftermarket radiator companies say evans voids their warranties.

If you do not start with a fresh cooling system and block you have to flush with evans expensive flush, any small percent of water effects it greatly.
It of course means you have to keep evans on hand for top offs,
And even evans says many will see a higher temp on their gauge with evans, i dont want higher temps,
Evans does not transfer heat as well as water or pre mix,

Here is a very good report,
Its unbiased, but one must understand the tech involved, i had to chat with my step brother who has degrees and works in these fields,


http://www.norosion.com/evanstest.htm

In most all cases all a person needs in a c3 corvette is water antifreeze mix, its cheap, easy, and works.....dewitts even makes their own version,
Seems like a lot of work and money. Better off flushing the system every couple of years with time tested antifreeze.
Im in the North East so the water debate does not apply.
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The 50/50 stuff is for when to top up your antifreeze. Nothing more, you don't want to top it up with 100% antifreeze or water

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