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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 02:43 PM
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I have a 72 Corvette with sloppy steering. I replaced the power steering control valve and the steering ram. Still sloppy steering. Any opinions on replacing/upgrading the steering box? Should I go from a 16:1 ratio to a 12.7:1 ratio? If I go to a 12.7:1 ratio, is there an advantage to getting a steering box with the power steering assist attached to it and removing my existing power steering control valve and steering ram? I can't find a manual steering box (i.e. without attached power steering assist) with a 12.7:1 ratio. All thoughts appreciated. Thanks
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Originally Posted by windemere
...All thoughts appreciated....
Have you considered having your existing steering box rebuilt?
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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have you done the in car adjustment of the steering box?
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Have you considered having your existing steering box rebuilt?
Yes. But I was hoping to get a better steering ratio than 16:1 for more responsive handling.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MelWff
have you done the in car adjustment of the steering box?
Do you mean adjusting the screw on the steering box? It is already as far in as it will go.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:49 PM
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youll love the 12:1 steering! Havent had it in a c3 but a similar vintage GM car night and day difference.
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:52 PM
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I didn't know Corvette boxes had different ratios available.

But I vote for a Jeep/Borgeson steering box
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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First, if the steering box needs rebuilt, nothing will fix that but a good rebuild....I recommend Gary Ramadei.

Secondly, I couldn't get good steering feel with the power steering setup and switched back to manual steering.....NOW its a sports car, and really is not an issue with force required.

Apparently the Borgeson system is good, but requires collapsing the steering column and does not fit with some headers.

I like the manual setup. Simple and feels great.
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Borgeson box has faster ratio, better feel (if retaining power steer) and less leaks (again, with power steer). I like mine a lot!
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Metalhead140
Borgeson box has faster ratio, better feel (if retaining power steer) and less leaks (again, with power steer). I like mine a lot!
did you have to remove the power steering control valve to use the Borgeson box?
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by windemere
Do you mean adjusting the screw on the steering box? It is already as far in as it will go.
If that screw on top of the box is in as far as it will go, it's possible the gears in the box are done. That screw is to adjust the lash between the gears. Too tight, the gears are jammed together and will damage them. Too loose is sloppy. The FSM has instruction on how to adjust the box.
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Originally Posted by windemere
did you have to remove the power steering control valve to use the Borgeson box?
The power steering control valve, ram etc are removed with the Borgeson box, the power steering is internal to the steering box (the hoses from the pump connect directly to the steering box).
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Did you check the condition of the rag joint? I just went with a steeriods kit and it made a huge difference in the way the car turns now.
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I have since 2010 the Gary Ramadei custom blueprinted/rebuilt OEM box with zero play....retains the OEM system but eliminates all play. The stock 16:1 box is fine for street driving...the Borgeson box with 12:1 ratio is probably good for autocross and racing but I do not miss the quicker ratio using the stock box on the street especially with the OEM designed C3 suspension. As a comparison I have a 2010 C6 Z06 with lightening fast steering with 4,000 miles on the car as well as a 94 Mustang GT Convertible with cobra steering R&P that I put on and a 2012 Lexus IS350 Fsport with a modified suspension also with lightening fast R&P steering.
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