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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 07:59 PM
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I've been chasing an overheating issue. Looks like the bottom hose is collapsing. My question is what would cause this.


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No spring in the hose.
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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 08:09 PM
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No spring in the hose.
I understand that the spring will help but what causes the collapse. Also were do you get the spring hoses. The only one i find is ecklers for 65.00.
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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Hoses with springs in them are green grass common at any parts house, take the old one with you to match it up with one that will work, my car has two spliced rad hoses, one from stat to rad, other from rad to pump, the hose gets warm and is under great suction from the pump, enough to collapse it with no spring inside....

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Old Jul 4, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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If your rad is plugged or restricted that could cause it as well, How old is the lower hose???
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Everything is new. Radiator, hoses, engine everything.
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 07:32 AM
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Not all lower radiator hoses come with springs (from Corvette vendors) and they don't collapse. There is some cause for them to collapse.
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by iwasmenowhesgone
Not all lower radiator hoses come with springs (from Corvette vendors) and they don't collapse. There is some cause for them to collapse.
This has been a known issue since these cars were new.
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Originally Posted by iwasmenowhesgone
Not all lower radiator hoses come with springs (from Corvette vendors)........
A repop from a vendor not made correctly? Say it isn't so....
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My lower radiator hose does not have a spring and it does not collapse. I guess that was my point.

What changes over time that will cause it to collapse?
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The rubber softens with the heat cycles.

Easier to see with the upper hose but when new notice they are stiffer then the one you are replacing.
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 01:32 PM
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The answer to your question is that the lower radiator hose is the suction line for water going to the water pump. If you are at highway speeds, you have a water pump turning at about 2500 rpm and it is attempting to SUCK that much water into it. That creates negative pressure which will collapse a non-rigid hose. So, you put a anti-collapse spring inside the hose; or you buy a hose with corrugations that will not allow it to collapse.

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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 02:23 PM
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you can find springs here, just measure what size you need

https://www.summitracing.com/search/...ibanner=SREPD4
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Old Jul 5, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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I just swap the spring from my old hose into my new ones. Been doing that for 20+ years.
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I appreciate the answers. I have also read threads about this subject, and if my memory is correct, some new hoses are built not to need a spring, and will not collapse. I guess the big question is if this is true, or just marketing. IN any case, I will be keeping an eye out for this.
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do you have the correct type of radiator cap on?
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I have a 15 lb ac delco
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You can buy them off Summit or others for pretty cheap. Just bought new hoses and the lower came with the spring.
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Oddly, many Corvette aftermarket vendors sell the hose without the spring. They also sell the spring, but make no mention of it being needed in the ad for the hose. Totally nuts!!! If the spring is in good shape (many rust away after years of service), the owner need only to buy the hose; but the ads for both the hose and spring should be together and there should be a *note: that a spring is required when that hose is installed.

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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
The answer to your question is that the lower radiator hose is the suction line for water going to the water pump. If you are at highway speeds, you have a water pump turning at about 2500 rpm and it is attempting to SUCK that much water into it. That creates negative pressure which will collapse a non-rigid hose. So, you put a anti-collapse spring inside the hose; or you buy a hose with corrugations that will not allow it to collapse.

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Interesting topic, I need to verify my bottom rad hose is not collapsing.
What is considered old? Mileage or years. I got about 3000 miles on mine, but the hose is probably 7 years old.
I do not think my hose has a spring inside.

Can you visually see if the hose is collapsing at idle once its up to operating temp, or does this happen at higher rpm's under load?
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