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Old 07-25-2017, 07:42 AM
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OK... #1 or #6

1. Place engine at #1 cylinder piston at TDC
2. Rotate engine

If #1 lifters and pushrods begin to rise as engine rotates your at TDC with #1
If #1 lifters and pushrods begin to fall as engine rotates your at TDC with #6
Old 07-25-2017, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
With all of the rocker arm nuts installed, but relatively loose, can you rotate the engine freely?
Yeah
Old 07-25-2017, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by stingraymaniac
Don't understand why it's hitting, I have a couple of 492 angle plug heads on it
Sounds like your heads have been milled to the point of creating piston to valve clearance problems. Do you know the history of your heads? If they're 40 years old, who knows how many times they've seen a milling machine.
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Originally Posted by stingraymaniac
The comp cam install manual says you shall install this way to have the cam at 0
Yes...that's CAM timing in relation to the crank/piston etc.

Leave all of that alone. But you need to rotate the engine one full turn to get #1 cylinder to TDC COMPRESSION stroke where both valves are closed. Then you can adjust that cylinder and move on through the sequence.

During adjustment you just need to barely take out the play. With #1 in position as described,,,turn adjuster while lifting up and down on pushrod. Just a light touch. When it just loses play you're at zero lash. Then turn it 1/2-3/4 of a turn more.

Make sure when you're at zero play that the cup in the lifter is not being depressed at all. It should be high and up against the clip. I'm guessing all the oil has been removed from lifters by now with the previous adjustments...so you'll have to pay close attention.

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Any chance it's got wrong pushrods and rockers are bottoming or something??

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Old 07-25-2017, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Yes...that's CAM timing in relation to the crank/piston etc.

Leave all of that alone. But you need to rotate the engine one full turn to get #1 cylinder to TDC COMPRESSION stroke where both valves are closed. Then you can adjust that cylinder and move on through the sequence.

During adjustment you just need to barely take out the play. With #1 in position as described,,,turn adjuster while lifting up and down on pushrod. Just a light touch. When it just loses play you're at zero lash. Then turn it 1/2-3/4 of a turn more.

Make sure when you're at zero play that the cup in the lifter is not being depressed at all. It should be high and up against the clip. I'm guessing all the oil has been removed from lifters by now with the previous adjustments...so you'll have to pay close attention.

JIM
Old 07-25-2017, 10:20 AM
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That's the way I have done it so I'm very confused right now
Old 07-25-2017, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 427Hotrod
Any chance it's got wrong pushrods and rockers are bottoming or something??

JIM
It's the standard length pushrods in it with 1.5 Lunati roller rockers
Old 07-25-2017, 11:02 AM
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Are you rotating it with the plugs in?
Something isnt right there is no way the valves should be coming anywhere near the piston. Tons of room...
are you spinning the pushrods with your fingers or wiggling them up & down til theres no slack then adding your preload? easy to get fooled
Old 07-25-2017, 11:40 AM
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Are you sure it's the exhaust valve hitting the piston. Did you replace the stock springs with Comp's recommended springs. Did you check free travel, valve keeper and top collar to seal?

Stock springs could coil bind with this cam and there may not be enough free travel. Either of these would cause it to bind up.

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Old 07-25-2017, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
Are you rotating it with the plugs in?
Something isnt right there is no way the valves should be coming anywhere near the piston. Tons of room...
are you spinning the pushrods with your fingers or wiggling them up & down til theres no slack then adding your preload? easy to get fooled
I agree. You'll hang the valves open and not build compression with improper valve adjustment, but I don't think you'll hit a piston. It's VERY easy to preload the lifter while setting valve lash on a hydraulic cam.
Old 07-25-2017, 03:29 PM
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If 327 pistons were installed by mistake, would they poke their heads high enough to hit the valves ?
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It is a 327 i have bored to 331
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Got any pics of valvetrain/pistons/heads?

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Old 07-25-2017, 05:06 PM
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There it is at tdc
Old 07-25-2017, 05:59 PM
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Good. one thing down.

It's got "universal" pistons that have same valve reliefs on all pockets. Meaning they can go in any cylinder vs many that have right bank and left bank. Also eliminates the common mixup on the middle cylinders of getting them in the wrong direction and not having the proper valve pocket line up with the correct valve.

Got any of the rockers at full lift, the pushrods etc?

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When you look down the lifter holes with #1 at TDC what do you see? Cam lobes sticking up or the base of the lobes?

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Old 07-25-2017, 09:25 PM
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^^^^^this.....answer this question!!!
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Originally Posted by jim2527
When you look down the lifter holes with #1 at TDC what do you see? Cam lobes sticking up or the base of the lobes?
Originally Posted by sstocker31
^^^^^this.....answer this question!!!
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That's an old picture it's assembled now, gonna see today if i can find any clues


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