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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 08:43 PM
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Default 84 Crossfire Injector behavior and Idle issues

Sorry for the intrusion, I have my post in the c4 section where it belongs, but I'm in desperate need of help.

So I recently acquired a 1984 Crossfire, and I've been noticing a few bugs I'm having trouble tracking down & finding answers for.
Upon first start up the car idles normal, but after about 15-20 seconds I notice it's a bit hesitant with it's idle. Then, as soon as I try to give it a little gas, it stalls out (~5% throttle) however anything above that is fine. I took off the air cleaner cover to look at the spray pattern and I noticed that when it's given little throttle, the injectors spray as much as they do if I gave it 80% throttle. I could really use some help with this if anyone has a solution.. thanks!
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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Have you replaced the throttle position sensor, by chance. And, have you pulled any codes by following the code-extraction procedure in the shop manual? It is important to verify that you are getting a 1-2, 1-2 in the ECM system test. I wouldn't rule out a vacuum leak either, whereby the higher RPM re-seats the leaking hose at its hose connection.

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Old Sep 1, 2017 | 10:03 AM
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I have an 84 also and acted all crazy after warm up,no codes.Replaced all sensors and same. Replaced the computer and she runs like new.
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I would check coolant sensor, in front of the intake manifold.It sends a temp signal to the computer .It will cause a over rich flooding problem.
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Thanks everyone. I will be looking into my TPS and possibly replacing it. Upon further inspection it looks like the wires have been tapped and it has a testing 'connector' added on. I also noticed yesterday that my brake light switch failed (my brake lights stayed on without me touching it), so I do believe that's contributing to my idle issue as well. I will update when I make some progress, but keep the suggestions coming!
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Is the ECM operational? You should see the "Check Engine" symbol light up on the dash when you just turn the ignition key to "on" position. That light should then go "off" when you start the car.

If those conditions are met, your computer should be working fine and have no 'trouble codes' captured.

If those conditions are NOT met, you need to get the ECM operational (or 'check engine' light fixed/replaced) so you can download trouble codes. Those will guide you to the source of your problems.
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Thanks for the response. Yeah, that seems to be working just fine. I tried pulling some codes (or just seeing if the ecm responds to me) and I just got the 1-2 flash, nothing else.
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Bad / worn TPS is a good possibility. If it is the original factory part, gold plate it and put it on the mantle. A working 33 year-old C4 TPS is an oddity, I would think.
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Originally Posted by RetiredHippie
Thanks everyone. I will be looking into my TPS and possibly replacing it. Upon further inspection it looks like the wires have been tapped and it has a testing 'connector' added on. I also noticed yesterday that my brake light switch failed (my brake lights stayed on without me touching it), so I do believe that's contributing to my idle issue as well. I will update when I make some progress, but keep the suggestions coming!
thanks, -B
somebody has replaced the tps.Or at least messed with it.you can test it to see if its any good.If it runs good for a short time then goes bad,i would not suspect tps.
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