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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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For a ‘77 they have two springs listed. The only distinction is with or without a/c. Is this just for a weight difference? I can’t imagine the entire a/c system weight more than 60/70 lbs.

if if this is the case, since I’ve switched to aluminum radiator, heads and intake manifold, and still have a/c would this be about the same variance in weight reduction?

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For a ‘77 they have two springs listed. The only distinction is with or without a/c. Is this just for a weight difference? I can’t imagine the entire a/c system weight more than 60/70 lbs.

if if this is the case, since I’ve switched to aluminum radiator, heads and intake manifold, and still have a/c would this be about the same variance in weight reduction? I've probably complicated things for you since there were actually more different springs originally than just the two choices. This is the reason that some cars ride great with one spring and then you put it in another and it will appear high. (or low)..

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Not in my mind... I'd still run the AC springs.

AC only added 32.50 lbs to the front springs, but I doubt the radiator removed the difference difference. I'd be worried the ride would be too soft with the non a/c springs. I'm no expert on what you are doing so maybe others will offer their opinion.

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Below I've posted the original 1976-1978 spring chart...



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Not in my mind... I'd still run the AC springs.

AC only added 32.50 lbs to the front springs, but I doubt the radiator removed the difference difference. I'd be worried the ride would be too soft with the non a/c springs. I'm no expert on what you are doing so maybe others will offer their opinio.

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Below I've posted the original 1976-1978 spring chart...

Thanks, Willcox man! 32.5lbs for a/c is much less than I had thought it would be. So considering my current weight reduction I do think I’m in the middle row spring of that chart at least.

However, to what spring set does this chart reference? Moog only had two listed. This has three. Are these for the factory dual rate springs?

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Thanks, Willcox man! 32.5lbs for a/c is much less than I had thought it would be. So considering my current weight reduction I do think I’m in the middle row spring of that chart at least.

However, to what spring set does this chart reference? Moog only had two listed. This has three. Are these for the factory dual rate springs?

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Exactly.. that's why I said I may have confused you more... The spring numbers on the chart are the original GM spring numbers which are no longer available. So you either go with the AC or the Non AC springs.. There really isn't another choice available now days.

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Are those weights in kg rather than lb? I can't make much sense of the total numbers otherwise?
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Are those weights in kg rather than lb? I can't make much sense of the total numbers otherwise?
Per wheel, maybe? So times 2 for each?
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Even so would come out around 3100lb for a well loaded rubber bumper car... 1550kg (~3420lb) seems closer on the money?
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It states Sprung Weight which is not the vehicle weight.

The mass of the body and other components supported by the suspension is the sprung mass.) Unsprung mass includes the mass of components such as the wheel axles, wheel bearings, wheel hubs, tires, and a portion of the weight of driveshafts, springs, shock absorbers, and suspension links
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Originally Posted by MelWff
It states Sprung Weight which is not the vehicle weight.

The mass of the body and other components supported by the suspension is the sprung mass.) Unsprung mass includes the mass of components such as the wheel axles, wheel bearings, wheel hubs, tires, and a portion of the weight of driveshafts, springs, shock absorbers, and suspension links


With GM you started with the base sprung weight, then added the option(s) weight to this, the matched the total up with the chart to order the correct spring(s) for the car.
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Ah, now it makes more sense! I hadn't noticed that in the heading. Thanks!

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