pthor

I'm to the starter on my rebuild, it's a Jegs mini high-torque starter.

Looking at the pictures can you tell me with the hookups available on the starter , where do these existing wires connect?

The purple wire is now a blue and the rest I believe are all orange/red.
Please be as basic as possible as this is definitely not my area of expertise!

NeverTooOld

The two ring terminals with the large 3/8" eyes go onto the top lug and the purple wire goes to the 1/4" male blade terminal. You'll have to cut the ring terminal off that purple wire and crimp a 1/4" female blade terminal onto it. The remaining wire can be cut off or ignored if it's a 1974 or later C3. It would have been for sending 12 volts to the coil for starting.

Peterbuilt

Connect the RED wires to the big terminal on the new starter.

If purple is now blue it connects to the small terminal on your new starter.
You can test it by turning the key to START and confirm that it only gets 12 volts with the key in START.

The Green is not needed on the new starter so tape it off.

The Black was originally the ground for the wiper and fan motor and connected to a bell housing or starter bolt.

72 schematic:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...GE5N2EzZGI2Mjc

pthor

Okay,I will give it a go ( fingers crossed) thanks

pthor

Tw, it's a 72 if that matters?

pthor

The black wire is connected above to an orange does that matter or should I go ahead and ground it?

'75

Check to see if the black changes back to black again further up. It looks like someone did some repair work on the harness. That wire should go up and split going to the wiper motor and also the heater blower motor. On mine, I ran and new larger black wire, it makes the blower motor work better.

pthor

I traced the wire, it's spliced with a red wrapped in cloth up top so, I'm assuming that's the original? I will get a pic

pthor

This is the very top

Peterbuilt

Do not connect the battery yet!
The only 'original' wire that is 'wrapped in cloth' goes to the + side of the coil.
Trace the wire in your picture and find out where it starts and ends.

Black wires are generally ground wires.
Red wires are generally 12 volts positive.

All your different color wires have me confused.
You need a meter or test light.

pthor

I still have the cloth covered wire that connects to the coil - with my new MSD ignition, do I still use that? I swore I read somewhere that it's not needed anymore?

Big2Bird

There has been a bunch of work done on that wiring, and without going to your house, I cannot tell if it's good or crap.
What I can see looks reasonable, but it's too hard to tell.

pthor

It worked fine prayer to the rebuild but with all new parts attached to the old block it's become difficult to figure out what I need and don't need.

lvmyvt76

you have a wiring nightmare, hope all goes well!!! Ever thought of buying a new wiring harness, saves on the fire extinguisher bill Looks like you are doing some other work on the car since some of the parts look freshly painted. Nice chrome headers etc.

pthor

Thanks.
I'm down to that one black wire, I think it connected to one of the small solenoid connections on the old starter (One of the few things I didn't take pics of prior to pulling the motor)

I have a local hot rod guy coming over later in hopes he can finger this out...
I'm very close to starting the new motor, installing a new harness at this point would take forever, it's been 9 months ~ I need to drive my Vette something fierce !

Olavo

Hello ! My C3 1982 is just clicking the starter, no crank. I'm going to verify it this weekend. Have we some Whatsapp group of C3 ? Would be a good Idea to create one if not available yet?

Peterbuilt

Hi and welcome!
Start a new post and you will get more replies.
First test and fully charge the battery.
Make sure that you clean and tighten the terminals on the battery.
Clean and tighten the ground connection to the frame, it's under the driver's seat but under the car.
With the battery disconnected clean and tighten the big positive connection on the starter solenoid.


Enjoy your new ride!

CanadaGrant

The small solenoid connection that goes up from the stock starter to the coil (cloth wire) is not needed if you have converted to electronic or non points ignition. Otherwise if you use a two pole mini starter with points ignition, you will not get a full 12 volts to the coil for starting. If it is cold or your battery is low you will have a no start problem but it will work and you won't notice it until then.
When converting to a two pole mini starter you should simplify things by changing to something like a Pertronix ignition in your stock distributor as there is no 3rd pole provision for the 12v booster wire on the starter. Also,Lectric Limited will sell you a complete stock engine wire harness for about 200 bucks and it kind of looks like you need it.

PainfullySlow

It looks like the starter stuff is well sorted but this stuck out to me like a sore thumb. I trust that you are going to deal with the swiss cheese cross member before running the car?

lvmyvt76

no, he wants to get the car running first, then take care of this after the fire