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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 11:26 AM
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Is there a source for a list of the chassis grounds on a C3? For my C5 there is a guide and picture of all the grounds in the AIM.

I'm having weird problems with grounds.
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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 03:06 PM
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Is there a source for a list of the chassis grounds on a C3? For my C5 there is a guide and picture of all the grounds in the AIM.

I'm having weird problems with grounds.

There isn't a "list" of grounds in the AIM. There are however detailed images showing the grounds for each system.


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Old Jun 10, 2018 | 03:15 PM
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I can’t find them anywhere.
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Is there a source for a list of the chassis grounds on a C3? For my C5 there is a guide and picture of all the grounds in the AIM.

I'm having weird problems with grounds.
I'll chime in with the ones I know
Beside starter at frame. Also from here there is a #6 cable to engine ground.
Below battery box at frame Negative from battery goes here.
Just below fuse box on birdcage does most of dash.
Ground goes thru center bezel and at top of bezel to metal under dash
On frame by rear taillights at frame.

There are probably more that others know but for a start find these and take apart and clean with emery cloth or wire brush and put back together.
Maybe mention where you are having weird problems
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I'll chime in with the ones I know
Beside starter at frame. Also from here there is a #6 cable to engine ground.
Below battery box at frame Negative from battery goes here.
Just below fuse box on birdcage does most of dash.
Ground goes thru center bezel and at top of bezel to metal under dash
On frame by rear taillights at frame.

There are probably more that others know but for a start find these and take apart and clean with emery cloth or wire brush and put back together.
Maybe mention where you are having weird problems
What I do not understand is when I connect my test light to the horn relay hot point I get 12V at the radiator surround (grounded) and at the HL ground (grounded).

Those two ground points have continuity to each other and each to the battery neg. Headlights only go on when I connect another ground to the radiator surround. I just don't get it.
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What year car are you working on MBrianB?

I'll get some photos if I can help.
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What year car are you working on MBrianB?

I'll get some photos if I can help.
'72 looking at my AIM now. What page (s)?
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'72 looking at my AIM now. What page (s)?
Look at my "stitch the AIM wiring diagram together" thread. It will show you all the grounds.
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What I do not understand is when I connect my test light to the horn relay hot point I get 12V at the radiator surround (grounded) and at the HL ground (grounded).

Those two ground points have continuity to each other and each to the battery neg. Headlights only go on when I connect another ground to the radiator surround. I just don't get it.
Reading a ground with a test light bulb's very low current. Lighting the headlights is way higher current so you are reading a ground thru something just not a good ground
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Reading a ground with a test light bulb's very low current. Lighting the headlights is way higher current so you are reading a ground thru something just not a good ground
My frame and all the attached parts have been powder coated. None of the metal to metal connections are happening.

I had to find a good ground on the frame and run a separate ground to that point from the radiator surround. Lights work now.
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remove powder coating for all Gnd. connections grind down to bare metal.
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I also replaced the two ground straps from the center crossmember to the exhaust hangers. That made a big difference though I'm still trying to cure a slight problem when the headlights are on. Good luck!
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This is what I used to clean up my grounding points. Couple of quick hits with one of these will clean any rust or paint (and powder coating) to make a good connection. When I first got the car I went through all the grounds that are easy to get to and replaced all the round eyelet connectors with new ones and soldered them on top of crimping them and cleaned the frame surface with the wire brush.

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