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Old Sep 1, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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Anyone know what the fuel delivery pressure should read on a 68' 327/350 with external fuel filter with return line to tank?
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Generally, carbs like 5-7 psi
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Generally, carbs like 5-7 psi
Mine is running 2 psi though fuel flow is good. I cant find the actual specs in my shop manual or on line. The external fuel filter has that return line which I wondered if it effected the actual PSI #s. I have read that Q jets dont like anything over 5 psi. Some suggest a pressure regulator. Having bogging issues and erratic idle speeds. thought this low PSI reading might be the culprit though I have also read fuel flow is more important than fuel pressure. Some suggest a pressure regulator.

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edelbrock is about 4 psi. Quadrajet is 5-7. I have a carter mechanical fuel pump that puts out 8psi and I regulate it down to 6. Runs good and strong. Easy starts once its been started from 4 or 5 hour shutdown.
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edelbrock is about 4 psi. Quadrajet is 5-7. I have a carter mechanical fuel pump that puts out 8psi and I regulate it down to 6. Runs good and strong. Easy starts once its been started from 4 or 5 hour shutdown.
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Since I am running low at 2 psi would a regulator bring it up to say 5? Not sure if external fuel filter return line would limit psi increase.
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the regulator just maintains a set available pressure. If you are only getting 2 psi from your pump, you will need a new pump. I dont know why your pump pressure is so low but my new from summit Carter pump broke after a couple of hundred miles and they sent me a free replacement thats been going strong for atleast 500 miles now. My broken pump was putting out 2-3 psi.

I have the stock A/C fuel filter with the return line and I can get 6 psi no problem. I think the return line is small enough that it just deals with back pressure

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Originally Posted by greggome
Since I am running low at 2 psi would a regulator bring it up to say 5?.
No. A regulator can only lower pressure. It cannot increase pressure. 2 psi is too low. You either have a defective pump or a defective pressure gauge.

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Originally Posted by lars
No. A regulator can only lower pressure. It cannot increase pressure. 2 psi is too low. You either have a defective pump or a defective pressure gauge.

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If it is in fact 2 psi would that cause hunting idle and bogging under load?
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It won't cause a hunting idle.- 2 psi is enough to produce stable idle and normal cruise performance. It will cause the car to lean out and "fall on its face" at the top end of 1st or 2nd gear at wide open throttle.

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Had this hunting idle issue with holley and Q jet. any thoughts on what to check?
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Originally Posted by greggome
Had this hunting idle issue with holley and Q jet. any thoughts on what to check?
Hook up a vaccum gauge to direct manifold vacuum and monitor the needle at idle. If it bounces all over back and forth....you have a vacuum leak either at the carb base or at the intake to head.

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Hook up a vaccum gauge to direct manifold vacuum and monitor the needle at idle. If it bounces all over back and forth....you have a vacuum leak either at the carb base or at the intake to head.

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My first thought was a vacuum leak. I have checked and rechecked vacuum readings at the manifold they run low at 8 but are steady with no fluctuation or flutter. Have hunted leaks using propane, smoke and carb cleaner with no success. Just completed compression testing all is good.
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Put a timing light on it and see if the timing changes corresponding to the "hunting." Timing should be rock steady. If timing is fluctuating, it will cause a change in idle speed and idle quality. The fact that you've had 2 different carbs produce the same results indicates that it's not a fuel system problem.

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Originally Posted by lars
Put a timing light on it and see if the timing changes corresponding to the "hunting." Timing should be rock steady. If timing is fluctuating, it will cause a change in idle speed and idle quality.

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This too!

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This too!

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Hard to get RPMs to sit steady at stock 750 RPM but it maintains a fairly steady idle at around 600 RPM allowing me to get a better look at the timing mark. With this steady idle speed there is no bounce or jumping of the timing mark. As I increase the RPMs and watch the timing mark as it moves up and hold it at different RPM levels I dont see any bounce either.
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Originally Posted by greggome
Hard to get RPMs to sit steady at stock 750 RPM but it maintains a fairly steady idle at around 600 RPM allowing me to get a better look at the timing mark. With this steady idle speed there is no bounce or jumping of the timing mark. As I increase the RPMs and watch the timing mark as it moves up and hold it at different RPM levels I dont see any bounce either.
Good....look for vacuum leak now.

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Good....look for vacuum leak now.

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Been over that ground using many methods with no evident leak found.
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And to do that, disconnect every single vacuum line on your carb and plug every port on the carb. That includes the power brake line/fitting, PCV, vacuum advance, and every single other line and port on the carb. Disconnect and plug. Then see if the idle quality changes.

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Been over that ground using many methods with no evident leak found.
The leak can be underneath....where you cannot see it......remember......most of the port is in the valley pan. Vacuum gauge is the tell

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Originally Posted by lars

And to do that, disconnect every single vacuum line on your carb and plug every port on the carb. That includes the power brake line/fitting, PCV, vacuum advance, and every single other line and port on the carb. Disconnect and plug. Then see if the idle quality changes.

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We seem to be the half of each other’s brains today..lol.....yes...disconnect all vacuum sources!!!!!
My 72’ Changes idle when you activate the headlights and wiper door!

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