Cam Swap and Timing
So far we have pulled the hood, radiator shroud (what a super pain!), radiator, water pump etc...Before i go further i need to ask about the timing.
So right now the timing is set advanced (i believe). Currently my timing mark is exactly at 12:00 on the harmonic balancer when the distributor is pointing at the number one spark plug. So before we do the CAM swap and start the engine break in should i set the timing to 0 degrees TDC or is it ok to leave it advanced?
Appreciate the help!
Before you pull your timing chain / cam, turn the crank by hand until both dots on the sprockets are across from and near each other:
crank at noon and
cam at 6 o' clock.
That way, you will not make a mistake when you install cam, sprockets, chain. Its an easy visual to spot the dots and have it right on the money.
(Later you will move the crank to # 1 firing position)
Yes, distributor comes out first & goes in last.
Go ahead & set motor at true TDC with rotor pointing at #1. That's best reference point as most but not all will get disturbed by your cam & intake swap.
BTW ... which cam & heads are going in?
FYI: Changing heads & cam (are you also changing rockers?) likely to change rocker arm/valvetrain geometry ... and Especially If you use either roller rockers or roller-tips, you'll need to check that geometry as you assemble. Possible different pushrods with different length may be needed. Plenty of online and print tutorials on RA geometry-setup you should familiarize yourselves with ASAP.
As far as the parts I’m using. I did my research with my ECM and cross fire setup. For the CAM I’m using Comp Cam 12-388-4 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-12-388-4. It should be ECM friendly. Also using the Com Cam high energy lifters.
For the heads right now I’m looking at the Brodix IK 180 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/bro-1021005 however I have not ordered these yet.
Rocker Arms I have not researched yet. So any input is appreciated
thanks!
so it will create a cam/CR mismatch in that your cam is a 9.0:1 CR stick while your heads will make the motor 10.5:1. Most recommendations are that you can safely go up/down .5 from the cams designed CR .
This would mean you should only push up to 9.5 CR using your 9.0 CR chosen cam. A head in the 70-72cc range would do this.
Now is you wanted these Brodix 180s with 64cc on an L48 starting with 8.5:! CR, i'd say great choice as the 64cc would bring it up to 9.5:1
Good luck
Last edited by Fast81; Mar 21, 2019 at 08:53 AM.
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so it will create a cam/CR mismatch in that your cam is a 9.0:1 CR stick while your heads will make the motor 10.5:1. Most recommendations are that you can safely go up/down .5 from the cams designed CR .
This would mean you should only push up to 9.5 CR using your 9.0 CR chosen cam. A head in the 70-72cc range would do this.
Now is you wanted these Brodix 180s with 64cc on an L48 starting with 8.5:! CR, i'd say great choice as the 64cc would bring it up to 9.5:1
Good luck
If there were a problem on regular unleaded - I'm sure an upgrade to a higher octane pump fuel would be worth the extra power and efficiency.
It likely won't reach exactly 10.5-1 w/o decking the block or shim gaskets, but I'd make sure to have fast-burn chambers in any new cyl head purchase.
Dart Pro-1 Platinum heads and Profiler would be heads to consider also, in my opinion - before Brodix. Or AFR if the budget gets stretched. $.02
Before you remove the distributor, do two things:
1. place a reference mark on the distributor housing base facing directly forward. Normally you would also put a matching mark on the intake manifold so you could line up the distributor the same at assembly. But, you are swapping the intake manifold, so you need to put the mark 'straight ahead' and then install it so that the mark is 'straight ahead' when assembled.
2. remove the dist. cap and put a big piece of duct tape from one side of the dist housing, up and over the rotor, and down to the other side of the dist. housing. Make sure the tape is adhering well to the housing and rotor. This will keep the parts of the distributor reasonably well aligned when you remove it AND when you re-install it. There is a helical drive gear at the bottom of the distributor (driven off the cam). As you remove the dist., the gear will turn and you will lose orientation of the rotor and housing if it is not kept together as a set. With it taped, the distributor will 'rotate' out of its location; and it will need to be rotated back in to position at assembly time.
If you regularly do this kind of work, you really don't need to do this. But, it really helps and simplifies this work, if you are new to it.
JMO ... I do not KNOW, but with all else same, I doubt 64 chamber on L83 will even make it to 10:1 ... JMO
JMO ... L83, renegade induction, good 64cc chamber, that cam & optimized ECM ... I doubt it'll make 350 hp at crank ... probably no more than 325 ... JMO
With such a small cam as OP proposes ... JMO ... No need or real benefit from roller rockers or roller tips. OE type slider shoe rockers are Very forgiving on geometry.
Perhaps the folks at Renegade (who developed their own xfire intake) have a good handle on what size chamber & CR & cam works well for L83? Ask 'em?
Brodix Iron Killer series DO have the more modern fast-burn type chamber; Nothing like chevy humps or fuelies.
If there were a problem on regular unleaded - I'm sure an upgrade to a higher octane pump fuel would be worth the extra power and efficiency.
It likely won't reach exactly 10.5-1 w/o decking the block or shim gaskets, but I'd make sure to have fast-burn chambers in any new cyl head purchase.
Dart Pro-1 Platinum heads and Profiler would be heads to consider also, in my opinion - before Brodix. Or AFR if the budget gets stretched. $.02
The point i was making is that his chosen 64cc chamber in the Brodix would push his CR way beyond the 9.5 CR upper limit of his 9.0 CR cam.
1982 ECM is limited in the duration it can handle and since CR and duration are linked, the highest CR the ECM can handle is around 9.6-9.75 and 64CC chambers yield over 10.3-10.5
Last edited by Fast81; Mar 21, 2019 at 02:21 PM.

















