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Old 03-25-2019, 05:34 PM
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On an 80, does a bolt have to be inserted into the large gear to prevent the spring from unspinging if the motor and regulator are removed as a unit, even if the motor is non-functioning?
Also, is it easier to remove the motor first, then the regulator or as a unit? Same question when reinstalling (together or separately?
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Old 03-25-2019, 08:11 PM
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remove it as an assembly, then use a 12 volt power supply and move the gear so that you can install the bolt. You don't want to remove the motor from the regulator without installing a bolt in place.

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remove it as an assembly, then use a 12 volt power supply and move the gear so that you can install the bolt. You don't want to remove the motor from the regulator without installing a bolt in place.

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Just to be sure I'm understanding you, there's no way for the spring to uncoil with the motor still attached, even if the motor is dead/ non-functioning? Just want to make sure I don't lose a finger. Thanks.
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exactly.. with the motor installed there is no chance of injury... un-bolting it.. we'll that's a different subject.
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sorry for large images, forgot to resize.
use a mirror and as you see the hole line up then put a bolt in.
Disconnect the switch and power from the motor, then replace.




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You don't need the bolt in the regulator until you have the regulator out of the car and then put the bolt in and un-bolt the motor.
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with a 1980 i just take the motor out and leave the regulator in. Done it 3x , takes about 30mins start to finish.
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with a 1980 i just take the motor out and leave the regulator in. Done it 3x , takes about 30mins start to finish.
Yeah you can do that...

But why not pull the entire thing and inspect the things that go bad... Example would be the rollers on the regulator, the drive gear itself and the motor gear.

I'm not saying that your way is wrong but it's hard enough to get out and the gears on the regulator and the motor fail more often than any other part in the system.

I'm not a huge fan of doing something twice and while the time to remove the entire regulator and motor is a bit more you'll have a better idea of what you have when you go back together. IMHO.

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Yeah you can do that... but why not pull the entire thing and inspect the things that go bad like the rollers and the gear itself I'm not saying that your way is wrong but it's hard enough to get out and the gear on the regulator and the motor fails more often than any other part aside from the actual rollers.... I'm not a huge fan of doing something twice and while the time to remove the entire regulator and motor is a bit more you'll have a better idea of what you have when you go back together. IMHO.

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The 1980 is a sealed door and i always dreaded trying to get the reg and window out. So i left as is. Do you have a guide on how to do it for 1980 ?
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The 1980 is a sealed door and i always dreaded trying to get the reg and window out. So i left as is. Do you have a guide on how to do it for 1980 ?
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Not yet... lol... but it's a Rpita... But when you remove the entire assembly it's a way better situation. Maybe the next time we get one in the shop I'll do a video... but it's just my humble opinion that if you have an issue it's better to remove the entire assembly and inspect for all issues..
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Not yet... lol... but it's a Rpita... But when you remove the entire assembly it's a way better situation. Maybe the next time we get one in the shop I'll do a video... but it's just my humble opinion that if you have an issue it's better to remove the entire assembly and inspect for all issues..
I can imagine the pita !!! Mine didnt have issues, just was slow to go up and down. Motor fixed that so i did both same time.
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I saw a youtube video on removing the regulator and he pulled the window first. Will the regulator not come out with the window in place and all the way up?
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I can imagine the pita !!! Mine didnt have issues, just was slow to go up and down. Motor fixed that so i did both same time.
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Honestly, for the work involved pulling the regulator, I'd just order a fresh set of everything and gut the rest of the door while it's that far apart aalready. Clean / rebuild / lube everything, TEST, and then reassemble. Miggt as well do it all in one pull & reinstall of the window glass. Including the outer glass wipe.
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Honestly, for the work involved pulling the regulator, I'd just order a fresh set of everything and gut the rest of the door while it's that far apart aalready. Clean / rebuild / lube everything, TEST, and then reassemble. Miggt as well do it all in one pull & reinstall of the window glass. Including the outer glass wipe.
Ugghh.. don't make me spend more money lol. But yeah, you're right that makes sense.
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