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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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Been searching the 'net and couldn't find an answer.

1. Does a type 2 have the same bolt pattern as a traditional Saginaw? There are many variants of the pump but would a C4 Type 2 bolt up?

I have the GMPP serpentine system which is based off the '92 Camaro RS system. It would only need the front 3 bolts to align.
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Been searching the 'net and couldn't find an answer.

1. Does a type 2 have the same bolt pattern as a traditional Saginaw? There are many variants of the pump but would a C4 Type 2 bolt up?

I have the GMPP serpentine system which is based off the '92 Camaro RS system. It would only need the front 3 bolts to align.
I do Not KNOW ... me thinks it's different bolt pattern.

Maybe you already know/tried? ... but ... there's available from several companies ... small aluminum, inexpensive bracket which bolts to driver side head and type 2 bolts to it ... allowing pump adjustment. Don't know if that works with your serp setup?
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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There's a CF member name "Jim Shea" who seems as knowledgable as anyone about Corvette PS systems ... I understand he was member of GM design team.

Perhaps try and message Jim Shea?
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I do Not KNOW ... me thinks it's different bolt pattern.

Maybe you already know/tried? ... but ... there's available from several companies ... small aluminum, inexpensive bracket which bolts to driver side head and type 2 bolts to it ... allowing pump adjustment. Don't know if that works with your serp setup?
I’m committed to the GM/Camaro serpentine system so no stand alone brackets, it’ll have to bolt to the GM bracket. My original pumps inlet fitting is hitting the engine block, Ive bent it a tick but it needs more. I have a Camaro pump housing but it’s side inlet is oriented ‘up’ which kinks the hose. I have a few options, the housing inlets are brazed so I can reposition the Camaro piece or just buy a new cover.

Tuffstuff make a muscle car type 2 pump that might bolt up, I have a message out to them, just waiting on a response.
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I have a type 2 pump on the TPI engine I put in my 78. Not sure about the bot pattern. I believe the pump on your set up has a resevoir built into it. If not you will need one. You also need to do some engineering because my pump had metric threads and I had to adapt it to the lines coming out of the 78 steering set up down below. The big issue is the pressure coming out of the type 2 pump is for a rack and pinion set up, different than ours. Pressure is high enough it will blow out the lines. I ended up with a borgeson kit that supplies shims that were added to lower the pressure. As said above, look for Jim Shea info. He explains it all very clearly. If you need more info, just pm me. Good luck
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Been searching the 'net and couldn't find an answer.

1. Does a type 2 have the same bolt pattern as a traditional Saginaw? There are many variants of the pump but would a C4 Type 2 bolt up?

I have the GMPP serpentine system which is based off the '92 Camaro RS system. It would only need the front 3 bolts to align.
You will also need to make sure the distance to the belt matches.

See this,
https://www.enginelabs.com/features/...rsion-for-lq9/

This is the closest direct replacement for the GMPP serpentine system. There unit didn't have the same distance to the belt, but with a custom bracket you can get the pump to work.

They will also make the PSI you require.
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My serpentine system is off a 92 HD gm pick up. I had to clearance the block with a grinder slightly so I could get the -6 JIC (AN for the slang term) fitting on the pressure port. I have hydro-boost and the jeep steering conversion.





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Originally Posted by cagotzmann
You will also need to make sure the distance to the belt matches.

See this,
https://www.enginelabs.com/features/...rsion-for-lq9/

This is the closest direct replacement for the GMPP serpentine system. There unit didn't have the same distance to the belt, but with a custom bracket you can get the pump to work.

They will also make the PSI you require.
Thanks. Yes, that's very close and would probably bolt up to the GMPP/Camaro bracket. Look like they use machined adaptor to bolt up the Type 2. That article was partially b.s. because C3 pump flows range from ~1.9-3gpm depending on the year. Type 2 flows aren't lower than that!!

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My serpentine system is off a 92 HD gm pick up. I had to clearance the block with a grinder slightly so I could get the -6 JIC (AN for the slang term) fitting on the pressure port. I have hydro-boost and the jeep steering conversion.

Great pic, thanks. Vette pumps have the return fitting in the center of the pump at a 45 degree angle....hits the block hard with the GMPP bracket. The Camaro pump return is vertical, with standard Vette steering the hoses kinks as it makes the bend down. For now, I'll probably just replace the reservoir housing.
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Originally Posted by jim2527
Thanks. Yes, that's very close and would probably bolt up to the GMPP/Camaro bracket. Look like they use machined adaptor to bolt up the Type 2. That article was partially b.s. because C3 pump flows range from ~1.9-3gpm depending on the year. Type 2 flows aren't lower than that!!
Call Turn One Direct they will know what will work best for your application.
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Did anyone ever figure this out?
I also want to put a Type-II pump on my ElCo with a 1St Gen SBC and 88-92 Serpentine Belt Conversion off a 91 Camaro RS.
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Originally Posted by kanvasman
I have a type 2 pump on the TPI engine I put in my 78. Not sure about the bot pattern. I believe the pump on your set up has a resevoir built into it. If not you will need one. You also need to do some engineering because my pump had metric threads and I had to adapt it to the lines coming out of the 78 steering set up down below. The big issue is the pressure coming out of the type 2 pump is for a rack and pinion set up, different than ours. Pressure is high enough it will blow out the lines. I ended up with a borgeson kit that supplies shims that were added to lower the pressure. As said above, look for Jim Shea info. He explains it all very clearly. If you need more info, just pm me. Good luck
Any pictures?
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Look in todays C3 parts FOR SALE. As I said in that reply if it is an L98 belt routing it needs to be reverse rotation. But if it is a difference serepentine set up then it should flow corre tly. Not sure.
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