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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 10:54 AM
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Guys I have a 73 454. Previous owner installed roller rockers. Car is a 4 speed. It has a terrible shake vibration at idle and going through gears. Seems to smooth out after 4 th gear. It it shakes enough to shake the steering wheel while sitting still. Harmonic balancer has been replaced with a high end one thinking that was the issue. It wasn’t. Any ideas? bent crank? Bent pushrod? Or what do y’all think? Thanks.
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Harmonic balancer for 454 has an EXTERNAL balance ... maybe it Improperly had a neutral balance OR an external for a 400 sbc on it ... either will cause it to vibrate/shake ... then it seems someone has replaced it ... maybe replacement balancer/damper is also improper.
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Also ... 454 has an EXTERNAL balance flywheel. BUT 427-402-396 do NOT ... it could also have wrong flywheel on it ... which will also make it vibrate/shake.
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 12:44 PM
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Also ...

Stop Driving It!

It sure seems you have a major imbalance in rotating assembly ... if you it keep up ... that WILL break crank.
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 01:55 PM
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Harmonic balancer for 454 has an EXTERNAL balance ... maybe it Improperly had a neutral balance OR an external for a 400 sbc on it ... either will cause it to vibrate/shake ... then it seems someone has replaced it ... maybe replacement balancer/damper is also improper.
it had original balancer on it. Replaced it with one from summit
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 01:56 PM
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Also ... 454 has an EXTERNAL balance flywheel. BUT 427-402-396 do NOT ... it could also have wrong flywheel on it ... which will also make it vibrate/shake.
flywheel is also original. What is the number reference you typed. Sorry I’m not an expert on this topic.
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 02:14 PM
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427-402-396 are series of BBC that do Not have external balance.

How do you KNOW those parts are/were original to car when car was manufactured?

How long have you owned car?

When did vibration begin?

Was it vibrating when you bought it? Or begin afterward? Or do not know?
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Have you confirmed the motor is firing on all eight? ... and doing so consistantly?
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 02:27 PM
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HF Thirty dollar laser temp gun ... https://www.harborfreight.com/121-in...ter-63985.html

check each exhaust runner a couple inches from head.
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 02:36 PM
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Suppose I shouldn't assume ... but I did assume you've already checked by pulling off one plug wire at a time ... if it stumbles, it's a good cylinder ... if it doesn't stumble, it's probably bad.
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did it start vibrating when the Summit balancer was installed?
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Originally Posted by jackson
427-402-396 are series of BBC that do Not have external balance.

How do you KNOW those parts are/were original to car when car was manufactured?

How long have you owned car?

When did vibration begin?

Was it vibrating when you bought it? Or begin afterward? Or do not know?
all I know is it’s a numbers matching car. Only mods that were done was roller rockers and aluminum intake and Holley. Maybe a mild cam. Original motor. I bought it about a year ago. It shook/vibrated when I bought it. Didn’t matter I wanted it. Just trying to see if anyone has ever had this before and can narrow it down. I already took a guess at the balancer and was wrong even though the old balancer needed replacing.
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Originally Posted by jackson
Have you confirmed the motor is firing on all eight? ... and doing so consistantly?
Yes
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Old Apr 28, 2019 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by derekderek
did it start vibrating when the Summit balancer was installed?
no. It was shaking/vibrating before the new balancer. Thought that was the problem. But it no better.
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maybe the old balancer was the wrong balancer
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FWIW ... I built a 383 from a numbers matching L48 ... it was still numbers matching but it had a sbc 400 damper & flexplate on it.
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If you put the correct balancer on, then it most likely is the clutch and/or flywheel.
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter13
If you put the correct balancer on, then it most likely is the clutch and/or flywheel.
you don’t think it’s the crankshaft?
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We are trying to help you narrow this down ... there's a process.

A 454 damper is External balance and has a pronounced counterweight... here's a pic of a Pioneer pn DA4541 ... you can clearly see & feel the counterweight on the REAR of this damper

https://static.summitracing.com/glob....jpg?rep=False

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pio-da-4541
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You can see the casting number on your flywheel along with the counterweights with splash cover removed from front of bell housing. Get somebody to bump starter while watching flywheel. Take phone. Snap pics.
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