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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 09:28 PM
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I am trying to diagnose a rough running condition in my 69 C3 tri power. Carb has recently been rebuilt by Lars I’ve set timing according to Lars paper, replaced wires and plugs. I am experiencing rough acceleration and poor power delivery. I have read it could be the coil and want to rule out all ignition causes before moving on to something else

what is the correct coil for my vehicle? It is a 427 with transistorized ignition.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:07 AM
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You need a TI Coil, go to this site http://www.tispecialty.com there's plenty of info there for you to figure out if you have the correct coil. I bought the lower cost (non-correct markings) coil one of the online vendors. (can't remember which vendor, sorry)
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:23 AM
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Has any of the ignition system been modified? If not and it has the stock TI system, it needs the stock TI coil

The TI coil has much different specs that the points ignition. Primary resistance = .41 to .51 ohms; secondary resistance = 3000 to 20,000 ohm; But the TI wiring harness has two fixed resistor wires in it. I don't have the P/N for a '69 TI coil, but I'm sure someone will post it for you.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 08:18 AM
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Did you check the pickup coil for intermittent opens? Check the two wires coming out of the pickup coil where they bend around the breaker plate before going through the grommet. They've been known to break there. Does the amp case have a very good ground connection? If led to it being a coil issue, I'd Call Dave at T.I.Specialty and see if he has any coils for sale. The last time I spoke with him, he was in the process of reproducing the correct coil. I would steer far away from the Chinese ones that are available. I've heard to many problems people are having with them. I believe the correct GM number is 1115207. Stay away from the 1233766 coil. The T.I. Specialty website has some good information and diagnosis flow charts.

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This is good information and reference material. Do the conditions I describe sound like ignition problems?
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Originally Posted by Bhebert449
This is good information and reference material. Do the conditions I describe sound like ignition problems?
Possibly. Not to give such a vague answer. You could also check for the fuel cap not venting and check for low fuel pressure. Did you get Lars's papers on tuning and timing? Look for carbon tracking on the coil and for cracks. My original t.i coil had a crack from one of the small terminals over to the metal can.
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 3X2
Possibly. Not to give such a vague answer. You could also check for the fuel cap not venting and check for low fuel pressure. Did you get Lars's papers on tuning and timing? Look for carbon tracking on the coil and for cracks. My original t.i coil had a crack from one of the small terminals over to the metal can.
Should I just replace the fuel cap? What is the best method to check fuel pressure?
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Replacing is an option. Suggesting- not saying to do this- drill a 3/16" hole through the cap to vent the tank. <----- do this at your own risk of fuel spillage when driving. A new vented cap is probably the better choice. You will need a fuel pressure gauge to check pressure. How are the fuel filters in all the carbs? I'll assume they are clean since you just had the carbs rebuilt.
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Replacing is an option. Suggesting- not saying to do this- drill a 3/16" hole through the cap to vent the tank. <----- do this at your own risk of fuel spillage when driving. A new vented cap is probably the better choice. You will need a fuel pressure gauge to check pressure. How are the fuel filters in all the carbs? I'll assume they are clean since you just had the carbs rebuilt.

Yes the filters were replaced when Lars rebuilt the carb. The issue seems to occur after the engine is warmed up on hard acceleration.
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Could be the coil.....could be the T.I. unit. And, as always, it also could be "something else".
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I hate to chime in here but is there a problem with the
accelerator pump adjustment. Mine sure does it if it
does not have a small amount of play. Thought it just might help.
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