C3 Tech/Performance V8 Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Basic Tech and Maintenance for the C3 Corvette
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Side pipes won't fit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-07-2019, 12:46 AM
  #1  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Side pipes won't fit


I am installing a set of side pipe headers but they stick down at an angle when tightened up and if you pull them up to try to line them up correctly they hit the frame of the car. So what should I do next? You can't really see it in this picture but it is about an inch down from where it should be.
Old 07-07-2019, 04:04 AM
  #2  
TimAT
Le Mans Master
 
TimAT's Avatar
 
Member Since: Oct 2006
Location: Gladstone MO
Posts: 7,121
Received 424 Likes on 385 Posts
C3 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019

Default

If they are down at the rear, check that the alignment of the driveshaft is correct. It may be you need to raise the rear of the trans- which will bring up the rear of the headers too.

And I would suggest a fat coating of anti-seize on the ID of the pipes so they will remain removable.
Old 07-07-2019, 04:46 PM
  #3  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

So my transmission is unbolted right now cause I'm doing a clutch replacement. When I first bolted them on they were sticking down at an extreme angle so I figured the engine was lower than it would be when the trans is in. so I jacked up the jack I had put in to support the engine and it helped, but in the picture you see the engine is jacked up in the back to the point that the header hits the frame so I cant go any higher.
Old 07-07-2019, 05:14 PM
  #4  
MelWff
Race Director
 
MelWff's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2006
Posts: 16,217
Received 1,817 Likes on 1,606 Posts

Default

are these headers new or used?
what make are the headers?
Old 07-08-2019, 12:35 AM
  #5  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

They came with car when I bought it so they are not new, but they didn't appear to ever be use on a car. Like when I look in them they don't have any carbon or anything like that in them and they look like Doug's or hooker headers to me but I don't really know a way to tell for sure what brand they are
Old 07-08-2019, 12:54 AM
  #6  
Gunfighter13
Pro
 
Gunfighter13's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 529
Received 111 Likes on 96 Posts
Default

Maybe the wrong motor mounts.....
Old 07-08-2019, 10:26 AM
  #7  
derekderek
Race Director
 
derekderek's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2015
Location: SW Florida.
Posts: 13,022
Received 3,388 Likes on 2,633 Posts
Default

wait until trans is installed. then deal with it.
The following users liked this post:
Gunfighter13 (07-08-2019)
Old 07-08-2019, 01:24 PM
  #8  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

I wondered if I could be motor mounts but how could I tell if they are different than stock also I probably will just wait till the trans is in but I was just wondering what you guys though
Old 07-08-2019, 02:01 PM
  #9  
AUS72
Heel & Toe
 
AUS72's Avatar
 
Member Since: Apr 2018
Location: Vic Australia
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

My side pipes didn't fit either take a look at what they shipped to me in Aus, luckily only painted. Hint! The mounting brackets. Both for the same side
Old 07-08-2019, 02:30 PM
  #10  
jim-81
Drifting
 
jim-81's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2011
Location: Chardon Ohio
Posts: 1,737
Received 280 Likes on 195 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by derekderek
wait until trans is installed. then deal with it.
I agree - then you will know how it sits.

Those look like they could be Doug's which I have also. Mine fit good but hit the body a little on the pass. side. Not a big deal though.
Old 07-08-2019, 06:14 PM
  #11  
Pzark
Instructor
 
Pzark's Avatar
 
Member Since: Dec 2018
Posts: 208
Received 82 Likes on 65 Posts
Default


I had a fit issue with OBX stainless side pipe headers. Passenger side was way to close to the frame but drivers side was perfect. I took a lot of flak on this forum with my solution but if it helps you I am going to share again. I made a simple wooden fixture, it is a two part setup and is bolted together. Here it is with the header installed.

The lower cradle can be unbolted and moved to the new location that I needed the header to be in. I cut the pipes moved the cradle to its new location and bolted it up.

Here it is with some sleeves installed ready to weld.

And here is the finished article. It fits perfectly I can now install both rocker trims without having to cut anything. My friend owns a 77 and he to bought OBX side pipes and had the same clearance issue, my guess is bad tooling but I cannot say for sure. The repair is not visible unless you lie down to look. Hope this is off some use to you. Good Luck
The following users liked this post:
Gunfighter13 (07-08-2019)
Old 07-08-2019, 06:48 PM
  #12  
Cool95vette
Pro
 
Cool95vette's Avatar
 
Member Since: Jul 2012
Location: St. Petersburg Florida
Posts: 687
Received 141 Likes on 88 Posts

Default

Until you get the tranny back in you really don't know where the final position will be. You may be trying to solve a problem you don't have. I agree with TimAT on the anti-seize. You'll be glad you did.
Old 07-09-2019, 03:07 AM
  #13  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Thanks for the replys guys I will put the trans in and see what I have and I will post what I find out. Don't know how long it will be before I get a chance to install it but we'll see
Old 07-23-2019, 05:29 AM
  #14  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Well I finally got time to put in the transmission and the side pipes fit the same so what should I do next?
Old 07-23-2019, 10:47 AM
  #15  
lars
Tech Contributor
Support Corvetteforum!
 
lars's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 1999
Location: At my Bar drinking and wrenching in Lafayette Colorado
Posts: 13,654
Received 4,926 Likes on 1,931 Posts

Default

You use chains, floor jack, and a Port-A-Power to bend them into shape. Common problem and process with side pipes. See and read my entire post with photos here:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...quality-5.html

Lars
The following 2 users liked this post by lars:
74_stingray (07-23-2019), caskiguy (07-23-2019)
Old 07-23-2019, 10:19 PM
  #16  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Do you think it would work if I put a piece of wood in between the headers and an the frame and Jack up on the collector? It doesn't need to move much and did the headers have to get heated up to bend them?
Old 07-23-2019, 11:21 PM
  #17  
augiedoggy
Safety Car
 
augiedoggy's Avatar
 
Member Since: May 2007
Location: North tonawanda NY
Posts: 4,233
Received 829 Likes on 661 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Dr1rrrr
Do you think it would work if I put a piece of wood in between the headers and an the frame and Jack up on the collector? It doesn't need to move much and did the headers have to get heated up to bend them?
I just connected my sidepipe all up and pulled them into position to bolt up using the pipes as leverage to do so.

Get notified of new replies

To Side pipes won't fit

Old 07-24-2019, 11:17 AM
  #18  
flyeri
Drifting
 
flyeri's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2011
Location: Kernersville NC
Posts: 1,338
Received 118 Likes on 103 Posts

Default

I've had Hookers and two sets of Doug's. All three had similar fit problems with two sets of engine and transmission mounts. The left side pointed up and inward while the right side pointed down and outward. The left side took some massaging to clear the frame. What finally worked for me was to buy new 12" collectors, cut off the originals and have the new ones tack welded back to the headers while everything was mounted on the car including the side pipes. This got the angles correct. We then removed the headers and finished welding them followed by Jet Hot coating. They are now a breeze to remove if needed. The hard part was finding someone with experience building headers that would not hack it up.
Old 07-24-2019, 02:39 PM
  #19  
Jebbysan
Dr. Detroit
Support Corvetteforum!
 
Jebbysan's Avatar
 
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: New Braunfels Texas
Posts: 9,963
Received 3,892 Likes on 2,564 Posts

Default

Just FYI......69 Off-road exhaust package included a spacer under the trans mount......not sure why this is but I know if you do not use it they hang down in the rear.....

Jebby
Old 07-24-2019, 04:04 PM
  #20  
Dr1rrrr
Advanced
Thread Starter
 
Dr1rrrr's Avatar
 
Member Since: Aug 2018
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Do you know how thick the spacer is by chance?


Quick Reply: Side pipes won't fit



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:34 PM.