ARP bolt lengths
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Burning Brakes
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ARP bolt lengths
Hey everyone
I have some questions regarding the bolt lengths for my intake manifold and the auto trans pan:
1. Intake:
In a previous thread 'HeadsU.P. recommended the ARP-434-2101 bolt kit which are 1" UHL.
I've measured an original intake bolt and it is 1 1/8". Also not all the original intake bolts have the same length... I'm affraid that the 1" bolts will be too short because I'm gonna use lock washers.
ARP does also sell another kit with an UHL: 1.250"
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-435-2101/
Will these bolts be too long? I'm concerned because I've read that there can be damage when intake bolts are too long. (It's for a 77 with original L48 heads and a performer intake)
2. Automatic transmission pan th350:
I think of buying these bolts:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-430-0401/
Will they fit? (I didn't meassure the length of the original bolts before I left for the US...)
I will be using a new aluminum pan:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-4338856/
I have some questions regarding the bolt lengths for my intake manifold and the auto trans pan:
1. Intake:
In a previous thread 'HeadsU.P. recommended the ARP-434-2101 bolt kit which are 1" UHL.
I've measured an original intake bolt and it is 1 1/8". Also not all the original intake bolts have the same length... I'm affraid that the 1" bolts will be too short because I'm gonna use lock washers.
ARP does also sell another kit with an UHL: 1.250"
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-435-2101/
Will these bolts be too long? I'm concerned because I've read that there can be damage when intake bolts are too long. (It's for a 77 with original L48 heads and a performer intake)
2. Automatic transmission pan th350:
I think of buying these bolts:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/arp-430-0401/
Will they fit? (I didn't meassure the length of the original bolts before I left for the US...)
I will be using a new aluminum pan:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-4338856/
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Call ARP in Ventura, CA and tell them your intake and head set up.
They have numerous intake manifold bolt sets available depending on your engine model, heads, and make and model intake.
They have numerous intake manifold bolt sets available depending on your engine model, heads, and make and model intake.
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Drop the intake in place. Use a coat hanger or screw driver whatever to probe the holes for length. Subtract a tick to prevent bottoming. I believe its the center 2? bolts on each side that bottom out on pushrods.
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That 13 cent bolt may cost you many pesos later on if it snaps off in the cyl head.
I really frown on people using your corner hardware bolts on engines. The bolt heads are too big restricting the use of box-end or socket movement. The bolt heads tend to gall the aluminum intakes. And last, they look cheap or . . . . . . . . look like shet.
ARPs intake bolts are not expensive. No worries about snapping one. The 12 point are easy to torque. And they look very professional.
ARP: please note I have not received my endorsement check in the mail yet.
I really frown on people using your corner hardware bolts on engines. The bolt heads are too big restricting the use of box-end or socket movement. The bolt heads tend to gall the aluminum intakes. And last, they look cheap or . . . . . . . . look like shet.
ARPs intake bolts are not expensive. No worries about snapping one. The 12 point are easy to torque. And they look very professional.
ARP: please note I have not received my endorsement check in the mail yet.
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Burning Brakes
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What do you guys think of the bolt length?
I'm in the bahama's now so can't measure or call someone succesfully (I'm from Belgium so high cists to call people here).
Original bolt length: 1 1/8"
ARP option A: 1"
ARP: option B: 1.250"
What should I get (best chance of fitting succesfully)?
I'm in the bahama's now so can't measure or call someone succesfully (I'm from Belgium so high cists to call people here).
Original bolt length: 1 1/8"
ARP option A: 1"
ARP: option B: 1.250"
What should I get (best chance of fitting succesfully)?
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What do you guys think of the bolt length?
I'm in the bahama's now so can't measure or call someone succesfully (I'm from Belgium so high cists to call people here).
Original bolt length: 1 1/8"
ARP option A: 1"
ARP: option B: 1.250"
What should I get (best chance of fitting succesfully)?
I'm in the bahama's now so can't measure or call someone succesfully (I'm from Belgium so high cists to call people here).
Original bolt length: 1 1/8"
ARP option A: 1"
ARP: option B: 1.250"
What should I get (best chance of fitting succesfully)?
That being said, I used Moroso 38400 1-1/8 under head 12 point.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-38400
Last edited by jim2527; Jul 16, 2019 at 11:29 AM.
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Option B. If too long they can be washered or ground down. Your not making short bolts longer.
That being said, I used Moroso 38400 1-1/8 under head 12 point.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-38400
That being said, I used Moroso 38400 1-1/8 under head 12 point.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-38400