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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 05:17 PM
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I recently rebuilt my entire front suspension on my 1980 L48. I also replaced my power steering pump and lines to address some leaking and age. I followed a bleeding procedure I had found on another site. Upon test driving, it doesn't seem like I am getting the full assist of the pump. Steering seems heavy but not quite as bad as no power steering at all. I don't know if it's the pump just not putting out enough pressure or if I don't have the system bled sufficiently. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks GIL
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 05:20 PM
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after a few figure 8 turns the system should self bleed.
did you adjust the power steering control valve to insure it centers?
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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Yes I did that adjustment and it seems fine. The steering effort is equal turning both directions and effort stays about the same throughout the range of motion(Turn). Thanks Gil
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 05:35 PM
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I remember Jim Shea mention that the corvette ps pump had special fitting or valve on the outlet to control pressure and that it needed to installed in a replacement pump. May look up his papers on Vette ps system.

http://jimshea.corvettefaq.com/?cat=5

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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 05:51 PM
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Thanks for the info. I had read that before but couldn't find that info when I looked. I think that's my problem. I don't have the old pump or I would simply change the valve with the one from the old pump. That paper talks about adding or removing shims, but states its for everything GM Except C3 Corvettes. I'm not sure why. I am hoping someone else who has addressed this problem can chime in on what they did or how they solved it. Maybe I can find the correct discharge valve assembly thru a parts supplier. Thanks GIL
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It’s not just pressure, over the years the fittings had different inside diameters which determines flow.
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 07:31 PM
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I had the same problem after rebuilding my power steering pump on my 1981. I purchased a new 'Tuff Stuff' pump from Jegs and it works perfect.
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 07:48 PM
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A manual on PS systems states:

Place front of vehicle on jackstands.
Start vehicle and turn steering wheel lock-to-lock at least six times.
This will dislodge / remove any trapped air bubbles.
Check fluid level.
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I did the bleeding procedure that was in the service manual as well as cracking all the hose fittings while the engine was running to make sure I had no air trapped there. I think I may have a standard lower pressure GM Saginaw pump and not one that's Corvette specific, the pressure rating is the only difference. I'm going to pull this pump and try one that I know is specific to the corvette. Thanks for the advice. Gil
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Originally Posted by gil7247
I did the bleeding procedure that was in the service manual as well as cracking all the hose fittings while the engine was running to make sure I had no air trapped there. I think I may have a standard lower pressure GM Saginaw pump and not one that's Corvette specific, the pressure rating is the only difference. I'm going to pull this pump and try one that I know is specific to the corvette. Thanks for the advice. Gil
This is from a Jim Shea post way back in 2007!! When my pump was replaced I swapped out the fitting. I cant say the pump I took off was original but there was a significant difference in orifice size.


As I review the C3 pumps that were in production through the years I find a number of different flow settings. (I have no idea exactly why.) The change in 1982 was because of the push for improved fuel economy.
1967-1969 1.75 gal/min
1970-1973 1.60 gal/min
1974-1981 2.90 gal/min
1982 1.9 gal/min
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Originally Posted by gil7247
I did the bleeding procedure that was in the service manual as well as cracking all the hose fittings while the engine was running to make sure I had no air trapped there. I think I may have a standard lower pressure GM Saginaw pump and not one that's Corvette specific, the pressure rating is the only difference. I'm going to pull this pump and try one that I know is specific to the corvette. Thanks for the advice. Gil
I recommend getting one from Billy at Gulf Coast Corvette..........he gets them from a rebuilder here in Texas who I believe is on this forum and comes well recommended (I can't remember his name).
I have one on my 72' and it functions pefect.

Jebby
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I exchanged a leaking pump as a core with RockAuto for my wife's 79. No problem with flow/pressure, though it is hooked up to a Borgeson box. The hardest part was swapping the pulley over.

You may also have a lot of castor on your alignment. Not a problem you are likely to face, but it will increase steering effort.
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Old Aug 7, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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I ended up purchasing a "Tuff Stuff" pump from Summit. I saw a thread here somewhere comparing different brands of pumps.

I agree with Bikespace on the castor comment and pulling the pulley off.

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