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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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Default Diff yoke orientation question

I pulled the half shaft yokes out of the diff for a rebuild. There is a photo in my Chiltons manual that shows the yokes to be installed at the same position in relation to each other and at a specific angle (45 degrees) when the input yoke is at 45 degrees. However, they were not in this position when I pulled them out. One is clocked about 75 degrees from the other and neither are in the right position in relation to the input yoke. I think this is the way they were installed from the factory and I have had no problems. Does anyone know if it really matters how the half shaft yokes are oriented in relation to each other and if so, why?

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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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I do not see any reason why it should matter. The orientation of the yokes is constantly changing while in use.
I didn't worry about it when re-assembling the DANA 44 from my car and it works as good as ever.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 12:45 AM
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If I remember correctly, it does really matter, I think they put them in that position for ease of removal and installation in and out of the car. lou
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 01:08 AM
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So far as I know it is only to make the removal and install easier if the cover is in place. If you lowered the pumpkin and cover together I don't think it matters.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. I couldn't think of a reason, but I suppose it could make maintenance easier.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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It cant really help - go around one corner and your inside yoke will turn slower than the outside yoke - completely changing the orientation - drive it for any length of time and the positions will move around.

I wouldnt worry about it. In fact I would ignore it, if you already have it together.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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Ditto... install them which ever way makes the job easier... they don't stay in that position anyways... they rotate at different rates depending on the circumstances as others have posted. i.e.- they don't stay "synced".
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 02:10 AM
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Thou Shalt Listen to the Voice of Experience!!!! If you are installing the pumpkin back onto the rear cover, and you did not drop the crossmember and rear cover for removal, you really do need to follow the orientation instructions as outlined. If the side yokes are out of alignment with each other, you won't be able to get the rear pumpkin up between the rear storage compartments to set it into the rear cover.

I'd rather not delve into the reason by which I know this to be true. It involves lots ot gear lube on my person, skinned knuckles, and mucho frustration. I've only recently been able to bring myself to discuss it in public.

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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Diff yoke orientation question (427street)

Another thing that helps with the yokes getting by the storage trays. On my car when you have the pumkin out and the cover still in, the bottom on the cover wants to come forward a little. A little is all it takes to make the re-install difficult. I take a come-a-long and hook it to the bottom of the cover and to the rear frame. Then put enough tension to move the bottom of the cover rearward about 1-1.5 inches. It makes a lot of difference and I also have done it the hard way.
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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Thou Shalt Listen to the Voice of Experience!!!!
OK I can see how the orientation would matter if the rear cover and crossmember were still in the car - however I cant see why, with the diff out - half shafts removed - strut rods removed, why you wouldnt take the time to remove 2 more bolts and drop the x-member and save yourself all that headache?

I rebuilt my rearend last year and did this - the removal took about 2 hours (except for a recalcitrant trailing arm) and reinstall took a little less.
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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I cant see why, with the diff out - half shafts removed - strut rods removed, why you wouldnt take the time to remove 2 more bolts and drop the x-member and save yourself all that headache?
I pryed, yanked, banged, swore, and beat on the crossmember and couldn't make it budge off the sombrero cusions. Rather than risk detroying something else along the way, I took the other route of just removing the diff from the rear cover and leaving the crossmember and cover in place. If you've not dealt with the joys of rust, you have no idea.........
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Diff yoke orientation question (sb69coupe)

I took the other route of just removing the diff from the rear cover and leaving the crossmember and cover in place. If you've not dealt with the joys of rust, you have no idea.........
O believe me I know - my car was a rust belt car and had a similar situation, perhaps not as bad as yours - but i soaked my cushions with areo-kroil for 3 days before going after the x-member - my 36" breaker bar wedged in there broke the dog loose.

but I will concede that circumstances could make the option of leaving the crossmember in very attractive.
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